Tavernier stay or go

[ayro 3,494]

18 minutes ago, Boybluesy said:

Who was out for us international break.  Souttar, McCausland, Barron, Cerny, Bajrami that's about it ? 

Diomande, Hagi and some of the B team.

[beararse 6,883]

2 hours ago, Negri's lovechild said:

I had thought Propper would have been that leader given his past.

I know it's early days from him so it may come, but so far he doesn't look to be the vocally dominant centre half I had hoped for. 

Only captains can approach the referee now so Propper can’t get in their face. Nor can he just jump in the team and start barking instructions/warranted criticism at team mates. Needs a settling in period before doing that otherwise he’ll piss off team mates.

Scoring an own goal and being injured means he’s had to keep a lower profile too.

Hopefully that’s the case anyway as we need someone who’ll boot a few arses on the pitch.

[Jimfanciesthedude 25,566]

17 hours ago, docspiderman said:

The reason that all our records are being overtaken has little to do with football. Have you forgotten we were thrown out of Scottish football and  had to apply to be admitted into the Scottish Football League  and started in the bottom tier with a financial handicap imposed? This left the top league as a one horse league and the cups an easy capture.Then the in fighting , law suits and  the endless manager and recruitment fuck ups which have left us financially helpless .

With all this it is almost a miracle that since we returned to the top league we have won 3 trophies, reached a final in Europe and have single handedly boosted the coefficient of the Scottish Clubsto get entry into the Chamions League for the winners of ur league.

Blame a player for mistakes by all means but football is a team game and to insinuate that one player should bare the brunt of the blame for our rivals winning trophies while we were not in the league and then suffering the merry go round of managers and  horrendous recruitment is plain crazy.

 

 

Almost a miracle we've won 3 trophies, fucking hell

Our wage bill was bigger than the tarriers the last two seasons if memory serves me right, in they two seasons they have won 5 trophies to our 1

We also cunted the easiest treble any OF team will have a shot of in the 55 season, and lost in domestic cups to sheep twice, hibs, hearts in other seasons, nevermind the utter shambles the seasons under warburton and Pedro 

So nah its nowhere near a miracle we've won 3 trophies in 8 years of being back in the top flight, its a fucking disgrace

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5 hours ago, Jimfanciesthedude said:

Almost a miracle we've won 3 trophies, fucking hell

Our wage bill was bigger than the tarriers the last two seasons if memory serves me right, in they two seasons they have won 5 trophies to our 1

We also cunted the easiest treble any OF team will have a shot of in the 55 season, and lost in domestic cups to sheep twice, hibs, hearts in other seasons, nevermind the utter shambles the seasons under warburton and Pedro 

So nah its nowhere near a miracle we've won 3 trophies in 8 years of being back in the top flight, its a fucking disgrace

Jim we have been and still are a basket case of a club. Incompetent boards, directors, wasting fortunes through law suits, inept recruitment and player trading, six managers in less than eight years with different styles and philosophies and financially still living from hand to mouth despite European runs.

That is the disgrace.

[bluenose244 2,652]

Been our best most consistent player for best part of a decade now and by a country mile playing up to 60 games a season and wracking up numbers for goals and assists unlikely to be seen again from a defender.

Should never have been captain (not his fault) been over played over relied on and run in to the ground (not his fault)

Rangers should NOT have been relying on a RB to provide the bulk of our goals and assists, it's hogtied us and held us back.

Tav should be remembered as one of our best full backs instead he will be remembered as our worst captain, I repeat should NOT have been given the armband!

[left winger 15,556]

On 11/09/2024 at 19:34, Loyal72 said:

 

 

His time’s clearly coming to an end with us, but he’s not as bad a player as that tweeter is a wank.

[stevemac 5,415]

3 hours ago, bluenose244 said:

Been our best most consistent player for best part of a decade now and by a country mile playing up to 60 games a season and wracking up numbers for goals and assists unlikely to be seen again from a defender.

Should never have been captain (not his fault) been over played over relied on and run in to the ground (not his fault)

Rangers should NOT have been relying on a RB to provide the bulk of our goals and assists, it's hogtied us and held us back.

Tav should be remembered as one of our best full backs instead he will be remembered as our worst captain, I repeat should NOT have been given the armband!

Seen this a few times now, hes not once played 60 games in a season for us 

[left winger 15,556]

27 minutes ago, stevemac said:

Seen this a few times now, hes not once played 60 games in a season for us 

He can't have been far off it a few times, but the point about the number of games he's played is pretty relevant.

[bluenose244 2,652]

30 minutes ago, stevemac said:

Seen this a few times now, hes not once played 60 games in a season for us 

Sorry 58 games.

[crmpicco 147]

I’m gutted how it’s ending for Tavernier

[SeparateEntityMyArse 55,323]

10 minutes ago, crmpicco said:

I’m gutted how it’s ending for Tavernier

I'm gutted for us it's not ending with Tavernier.

[Boybluesy 4,040]

He's going nowhere until at least January.  Let's get behind him and the team, no option really.

[DMax399 3,993]

4 minutes ago, Boybluesy said:

He's going nowhere until at least January.  Let's get behind him and the team, no option really.

Honestly mate.  It won’t make a bit of difference if we get behind him or not.  He’s not part of our future, and we would be no worse off if we benched him until he eventually goes.  He’s a liability, and has no stomach for a fight.

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1 hour ago, DMax399 said:

Honestly mate.  It won’t make a bit of difference if we get behind him or not.  He’s not part of our future, and we would be no worse off if we benched him until he eventually goes.  He’s a liability, and has no stomach for a fight.

I was a huge fan of Tav. Especially in the Euro cup run.

I think he has lost the drive now, and he doesn't realise it.

He is a driven person and maybe just doesn't know when to let go. Sad to see.

Took us to a penalty shootout in a Euro final (excelled that year) and went downhill from there. As sis the squad and management tbf.

I think he should have followed Gio when he moved. They had a fantastic manager to captain relationship.

He onviously needs a change of scenery.

Loyalty only takes you so far. Sometimes you need a new challenge.

Refresh the page for everyone's sake.

 

 

 

[RossS1873 2,597]

2 hours ago, crmpicco said:

I’m gutted how it’s ending for Tavernier

It's not ending. That's the problem. It's a never ending nightmare we can't wake up from

[Broxi 12,202]

1 hour ago, Boybluesy said:

He's going nowhere until at least January.  Let's get behind him and the team, no option really.

He won't go in January either

He's linked with moves to Saudi every window now and I'm not convinced there's ever been anything in it. My guess is he'll leave next summer or he'll finish here when he retires.

[OrangeRab 3,382]

7 hours ago, stevemac said:

Seen this a few times now, hes not once played 60 games in a season for us 

He played 59 competitive matches last season. Of which he played at least 85 minutes in each match.

And 8 friendlies. And similar for the seasons before.

The guy has played an utterly insane amount of football. And probably asked to cover more ground than any other position.

We’ve done the opposite of trying to manage him.

Clement made that decision and fucked it with a few players. Legs are done. Should have been moved on. 

 

[MacBoyd 6,065]

Surely worth a try in midfield at this stage. I know that's been a long term argument but he's way too slow for rb now. He could surely be a combative midfielder like ricksen? Would be good to keep his set pieces in side. If not he simply must not play.

[bluenoz 32,385]

Tav knows he's a limited footballer and wouldn't be able to handle the abuse sure to come is way from rabid Turkey fans.

He is here for the remainder of his contract now. He may end up costing Clement his job.

Meanwhile, we will continue to play Sterling out of position...

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Needs a wee hug.

[Cooperson 1,008]

12 hours ago, MacBoyd said:

Surely worth a try in midfield at this stage. I know that's been a long term argument but he's way too slow for rb now. He could surely be a combative midfielder like ricksen? Would be good to keep his set pieces in side. If not he simply must not play.

He can't run, or get back like he used too, Ricksen could do both and tackle- mix it, Tav can't, he should be used less and less, or rested,

We really need to see if Sterling can play right back or not, or else ease in another right back I'm pretty sure the new guy can play right back aswell as CB

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On 13/09/2024 at 21:57, MacBoyd said:

Surely worth a try in midfield at this stage. I know that's been a long term argument but he's way too slow for rb now. He could surely be a combative midfielder like ricksen? Would be good to keep his set pieces in side. If not he simply must not play.

You are joking, right?

[MacBoyd 6,065]

4 hours ago, five stars said:

You are joking, right?

Well he's clearly going to play and it can't be at rb

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On 13/09/2024 at 18:12, OrangeRab said:

He played 59 competitive matches last season. Of which he played at least 85 minutes in each match.

And 8 friendlies. And similar for the seasons before.

The guy has played an utterly insane amount of football. And probably asked to cover more ground than any other position.

We’ve done the opposite of trying to manage him.

Clement made that decision and fucked it with a few players. Legs are done. Should have been moved on. 

 

Regardless of what you think of Tav, successive managers have asked him to play far too many minutes.

I can't think of any other player that has been pushed that hard in football.

It is bound to lead to physical and mental burnout.

We have burnt him out and it clearly shows.

 

[Drunk and disorderly. 15,074]

On 13/09/2024 at 22:14, bluenoz said:

Tav knows he's a limited footballer and wouldn't be able to handle the abuse sure to come is way from rabid Turkey fans.

He is here for the remainder of his contract now. He may end up costing Clement his job.

Meanwhile, we will continue to play Sterling out of position...

So he doesn't get abuse from our fans at games, after games and online?

Mental take.