beararse 6,386 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, LegendofCoop said: I don't care what anyone says, You don't score goals like these if there's nothing about you as a footballer.... He’s scored 6 goals (averaging a goal every 209 mins on the pitch) yet 2 we’re screamers and a couple earned points in the tail end of games. Was surprised we shipped him out in the first instance. I think the lad could flourish under GVB’s less complicated game plan. Time will tell I suppose. LegendofCoop 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,961 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Itten has always had a fair amount of support within our fan base. I'm not really one of them. For me, he is behind Morelos, Roofe & Sakala. He has a bit of skill, maybe Gio can find another level in him. I'm sure the German club are happy we shortened the loan deal, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 17,391 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 7 hours ago, beararse said: He’s scored 6 goals (averaging a goal every 209 mins on the pitch) yet 2 we’re screamers and a couple earned points in the tail end of games. Was surprised we shipped him out in the first instance. I think the lad could flourish under GVB’s less complicated game plan. Time will tell I suppose. That's not bad stats for someone who is a striker getting played out wide, or not at all for long spells. He's a finisher...... that's his skill imo. You're right, I think the way Gio plays could well suit him. We would be silly not giving him a chance to prove himself to the new boss beararse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Worth him getting another chance under Gio i’d say, if it doesn’t work out he’ll be off in the summer DrLaudrup and Ayrshire Blue 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,675 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 10 hours ago, LegendofCoop said: I don't care what anyone says, You don't score goals like these if there's nothing about you as a footballer.... I don’t really rate him, think he’s very pedestrian and doesn’t have much ‘snap’ about him. Decent goals record at us though, and that was with Gerrard treating him like a bit of shite on his shoe. Hopefully with him as a CF and proper wingers he’ll come good, doubt it though. LegendofCoop 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven33jackie 1,942 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Apparently the five subs rule is to be reintroduced by the league. If that is the case then bringing him back makes sense. DrLaudrup, Drunk and disorderly. and ayrshireranger 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamMunny 3,243 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, steven33jackie said: Apparently the five subs rule is to be reintroduced by the league. If that is the case then bringing him back makes sense. Where did you read this ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdzKyle 7,898 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, WilliamMunny said: Where did you read this ? In todays papers. Not going to link to them WilliamMunny 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 65,111 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 hours ago, LegendofCoop said: That's not bad stats for someone who is a striker getting played out wide, or not at all for long spells. He's a finisher...... that's his skill imo. You're right, I think the way Gio plays could well suit him. We would be silly not giving him a chance to prove himself to the new boss 34 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: I don’t really rate him, think he’s very pedestrian and doesn’t have much ‘snap’ about him. Decent goals record at us though, and that was with Gerrard treating him like a bit of shite on his shoe. Hopefully with him as a CF and proper wingers he’ll come good, doubt it though. Nah not having that, Morelos, Roofe and Defoe all average 1 in 2. 6 in over 40 is horrendous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,647 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: Nah not having that, Morelos, Roofe and Defoe all average 1 in 2. 6 in over 40 is horrendous. Not saying he's good enough but 6 in 40 doesn't really paint the full picture when in terms of minutes on the pitch it's nearly a 1 in 2 record graeme_4, GlasgowRangersFC and JograBear 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 65,111 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Just now, TheKingObv said: Not saying he's good enough but 6 in 40 doesn't really paint the full picture when in terms of minutes on the pitch it's nearly a 1 in 2 record The reasons given for him having such a poor record will be he sometimes played 'out wide' or didn't start a lot Roofe very rarely starts up front and the majority of Defoe's goals were off the bench so it's comparable to them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,647 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Just now, The Specky Liar said: The reasons given for him having such a poor record will be he sometimes played 'out wide' or didn't start a lot Roofe very rarely starts up front and the majority of Defoe's goals were off the bench so it's comparable to them Not disagreeing on that, more the use of 6 in 40 as a measure of his goal record without context on minutes played. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 65,111 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, TheKingObv said: Not disagreeing on that, more the use of 6 in 40 as a measure of his goal record without context on minutes played. In isolation aye but I was comparing him with those players who have similar issues in terms of starting and not playing up front as that's the standard he needs to be at to compete with them TheKingObv 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blues 375 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 It makes commercial sense. He is in the Swiss squad and they are not a bad side. If he can bag a few goals for us and score a couple in the wc his valuation will shoot up. It’s worth the risk. He never got a chance this season after performing well in pre-season and scoring against Real Madrid and Arsenal (also Partick?)…ok he was given one game..Malmo where rest of team didn’t turn up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLaudrup 4,684 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 This makes complete sense. Especially with Defoe leaving and the 5 substitutes rule back. I’m still not convinced that he will be a starter for us. His goals record is not great but he scored important goals for us. Coming off the bench when we were struggling to score and also doing the business in Europe. He always held the ball up well too. It is important to have options at a club like ours. I’d like to the Roy Mackaay could be a positive influence on his development. plymouthranger and Heshootshescores 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,281 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Clean slate, best of luck to him but don’t have much hope he’ll do any better. I suppose we do have to play Motherwell twice still. DrLaudrup 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromDeAnglais 5,555 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Hopefully working with Maakay can add to his game. There is a decent player in there. Got a goal against Bayern a few months back. https://youtu.be/JLXk3-9hP8g Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,224 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Have an odd feeling he’s going to be outstanding under GVB They Gnu, Cracked Actor and demise 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,604 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 43 minutes ago, Essandoh said: Have an odd feeling he’s going to be outstanding under GVB That is odd tbf. Essandoh 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
demise 3,519 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Hopefully this is his time to shine. If not, we can sell him in the summer, im sure there will be no shortage of volunteers for a swiss international. Huge 5 months for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 65,111 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Makes sense to replace Defoe from within but don't see him contributing much if anything at all BlueAvenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Gnu 11,553 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Essandoh said: Have an odd feeling he’s going to be outstanding under GVB Most have already written him off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoastbear 1,639 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 10 hours ago, Essandoh said: Have an odd feeling he’s going to be outstanding under GVB Hope your right, seems like a good lad but perhaps a bit too nice on the pitch. Got to admit from a lad of his size wouldn't mind seeing a bit more physicality from him in the box, make the ball his. Essandoh 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,224 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, southcoastbear said: Hope your right, seems like a good lad but perhaps a bit too nice on the pitch. Got to admit from a lad of his size wouldn't mind seeing a bit more physicality from him in the box, make the ball his. That’s a fair point A lot his said about how deep he was made to play under Gerrard and that he was very rarely ever near the box, but he really did lack a noticeable aggression Its not completely necessary but Morelos shows how beneficial it can be southcoastbear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amokachi 3,052 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, southcoastbear said: Hope your right, seems like a good lad but perhaps a bit too nice on the pitch. Got to admit from a lad of his size wouldn't mind seeing a bit more physicality from him in the box, make the ball his. Hopefully this is what Roy Mackay will be working on with him. southcoastbear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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