Ryan Jack signs 1 year extension

[Malkytfp1 18,673]

15 minutes ago, bluenoz said:

When Jack is fit and in the team, our winning % improves. Last week, he showed how valuable a player he is.

If Beale manages his minutes properly, I see this as a good piece of business. Experience plays a big factor.

He's been a great signing for the club. I actually thought he was quiet last week but that could be a good thing with his role and also Lundstram and Raskin were excellent.

[285miles 515]

Understand the injury issue but when fit and in form he’s a formidable player 

[SeparateEntityMyArse 54,035]

31 minutes ago, theiconicman said:

Ok but he's only been here 6 months so doesn't really mean much against 6 years worth of data.

It's the current 6 months to date though and that's arguably as relevant as his historical absences.

I'm not overly bothered either way by it, just hope there's a belief that he's over the worst of his injuries.

[rossco87 692]

56 minutes ago, Somemightsay7 said:

It would be different if he was some world class player we would start whenever fit and we would be happy getting only 25 games a season out of him, but he's not. 

Nope. That would be an absolute nightmare. How do you build a team / momentum around someone who is only there half the time.  We have done it with Roofe this season and look how that has panned out…

 

I am not saying I don’t understand peoples concerns about his injury record and it is far from ideal but is probably just about manageable if we are not counting on him as a starter.

[NI 916]

Correct decision, will have a smaller role with time going forward. I'm sure Beale will manage minutes with Jack and it will be perfectly fine.

[graeme_4 34,866]

1 hour ago, Tao said:

I banish thee to the void!

 

[shaka 1,704]

Absolutely no issues with Jack getting an extension on less money, but if Arfield gets an extension, then it's very worrying.

We need changes in midfield but it'd be difficult to get someone in to play the Jack role of a similar quality as purely a back-up option.

We're already bringing in better quality as first choice, but someone needs to be a squad option. 

Arfield, on the other hand, is older and at current levels easily replaceable by someone from the youths. 

[The Dude 20,026]

16 minutes ago, shaka said:

Absolutely no issues with Jack getting an extension on less money, but if Arfield gets an extension, then it's very worrying.

We need changes in midfield but it'd be difficult to get someone in to play the Jack role of a similar quality as purely a back-up option.

We're already bringing in better quality as first choice, but someone needs to be a squad option. 

Arfield, on the other hand, is older and at current levels easily replaceable by someone from the youths. 

Which one?

[Jamie0202 12,476]

1 hour ago, Malkytfp1 said:

 

😂 

[Brubear 2,931]

5 hours ago, Prso's headband said:

I can actually see it now despite wanting every out of contract player to go. 
 

Raskin, Cantwell, Cifuentes as starters with Lundstram, Jack and Lawrence providing cover means the midfield is pretty much there for next season and this one isn’t even over yet. 

In my opinion Lawrence is good enough to start for us if he gets back to pre injury performance levels. 

[shaka 1,704]

8 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Which one?

As a back up option of the bench... Lowry, Lyall or McKinnon could be options from our youth team.  If we're looking at youth players elsewhere that could come in and provide an alternative then Barron at Aberdeen looks a good prospect. 

[graeme_4 34,866]

28 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Which one?

You’d think Lowry would be the obvious one, attitude permitting. 

[OrangeRab 2,861]

Lowry’s had a tough year. A bad injury then losing his mum. And few rumours about losing his way a bit off the park. All understandable.

Would expect him to step up more next year. With a good pre season and a bit more bulk, he can be a better option than Arfield

[bluenoz 31,061]

Lowry spoke very well recently about what he has to do to get ahead of Arfield & Hagi. 

His attitude sounds positive to me. He plays with a swagger which I like, and I think it gets misinterpreted.

[BlueSuedeSambas 54,203]

Lowry and Jack aren’t even remotely close in terms of playing style though.

Jack’s being kept on because he’s a guy you can bring on to shut a game down and see it out. Lowry is a guy you bring on when you need some creativity and flair.

One couldn’t do what the other does. It’s apples and oranges 

[Essandoh 21,243]

I do hope Lowry finds his way in the summer and becomes a regular first team player

Dreadful year for him

[OrangeRab 2,861]

3 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said:

Lowry and Jack aren’t even remotely close in terms of playing style though.

Jack’s being kept on because he’s a guy you can bring on to shut a game down and see it out. Lowry is a guy you bring on when you need some creativity and flair.

One couldn’t do what the other does. It’s apples and oranges 

Yeh I think people saying Jack extension is fine. But less need for Arfield because Lowry can be more of a direct replacement 

[BlueSuedeSambas 54,203]

4 minutes ago, OrangeRab said:

Yeh I think people saying Jack extension is fine. But less need for Arfield because Lowry can be more of a direct replacement 

Think that’s a fair assessment. 👍🏻

[SeparateEntityMyArse 54,035]

8 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said:

Lowry and Jack aren’t even remotely close in terms of playing style though.

Jack’s being kept on because he’s a guy you can bring on to shut a game down and see it out. Lowry is a guy you bring on when you need some creativity and flair.

One couldn’t do what the other does. It’s apples and oranges 

It's replacing Arfield not Jack that's being discussed.

Imo no-one I've seen at the club does what Arfielld does / did.

He's all.about timed runs into the box, relatively little involvement in build up play, not renowned for creativity. 

Certainly not Lowry who wants on the ball and to dictate play imo.

[superallysbears 7,746]

Looks to have lost a yard of pace to me, can do the job to a point but we need better.

[BlueSuedeSambas 54,203]

24 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

It's replacing Arfield not Jack that's being discussed.

Imo no-one I've seen at the club does what Arfielld does / did.

He's all.about timed runs into the box, relatively little involvement in build up play, not renowned for creativity. 

Certainly not Lowry who wants on the ball and to dictate play imo.

Yeah I fucked it. 

[The Dude 20,026]

58 minutes ago, graeme_4 said:

You’d think Lowry would be the obvious one, attitude permitting. 

Two very different type of players. 

[gogzy 31,195]

Absolutely fine with this.

[Negri's lovechild 14,290]

A fit and firing Jack is great for the squad. Hopefully his injury issues are behind him and he can be a good squad option for the next year.

And, as much as he probably won't, if he chucked playing for Scotland it would help us.

[J-Maestro 11,396]

32 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Two very different type of players. 

I’d say Lowrys direct competition is Cantwell, Hagi or Lawrence rather than Arfield.