The Offside Goal vs St.J

[RealWorldRich 561]

 

 

 

There's absolutely no way that's offside.  The "technology" used to draw the lines really needs looked at.

[bluchoo 846]

It is offside though, the cameras are calibrated before the game and tge pitch scanned, 1 cm or 1 meter is still offside

[Inigo 32,534]

Looks feasibly offside to me.

[ForeverAndEver 71,529]

It doesn’t look offside but it’s a fucking rotten angle

[RealWorldRich 561]

2 minutes ago, bluchoo said:

It is offside though, the cameras are calibrated before the game and tge pitch scanned, 1 cm or 1 meter is still offside

The margin of error on offside has to be much greater than 1cm.  For example a striker in full sprint recieving a pass, the difference of being on or off can come down to the video frame chosen.  The passers contact with the ball will occupy a few frames.

[RealWorldRich 561]

Just now, ForeverAndEver said:

It doesn’t look offside but it’s a fucking rotten angle

That's the angle they used for the lines.  There's no way the halfway line is perpendicular with the sidelines either on a potato field like St. J.

 

There's no way this can be an accurate science, but if you eyeball it Sima is closer to the halfway line than the defender playing him on.

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,731]

Why the fuck did the linesman put his flag up when it was a bawhair in it and we progressed into attack and scored?

 

[TheKingObv 10,646]

With the lines drawn on he looks a tiny bit offside. 

[Roy Hobbs 2,174]

The split second they showed it on sky the lines were touching. The rule is supposed to be if the lines are touching it's a goal.

[TheKingObv 10,646]

2 minutes ago, RealWorldRich said:

That's the angle they used for the lines.  There's no way the halfway line is perpendicular with the sidelines either on a potato field like St. J.

 

There's no way this can be an accurate science, but if you eyeball it Sima is closer to the halfway line than the defender playing him on.

'Eyeballing' is irrelevant when the angle is like this. The lines are drawn at the correct angle using VAR (they don't just use the halfway line).

[TheKingObv 10,646]

Just now, Roy Hobbs said:

The split second they showed it on sky the lines were touching. The rule is supposed to be if the lines are touching it's a goal.

Is it?

[ForeverAndEver 71,529]

Just now, TheKingObv said:

Is it?

There was definitely talk of that becoming the rule for this season, whether or not it came about I’m not sure

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,556]

3 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said:

The split second they showed it on sky the lines were touching. The rule is supposed to be if the lines are touching it's a goal.

I thought it was if they were overlapping, but who knows with the VAR we use

[Roy Hobbs 2,174]

2 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said:

There was definitely talk of that becoming the rule for this season, whether or not it came about I’m not sure

When Sakala scored against Ross County either last season or the season before that was the justification. Sakala's line was a bawhair ahead but touching.

[ForeverAndEver 71,529]

4 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said:

When Sakala scored against Ross County either last season or the season before that was the justification. Sakala's line was a bawhair ahead but touching.

I can’t recall that goal or that rule ever being a thing before hearing it discussed in the summer tbh with you mate

[DrLaudrup 4,637]

Feels like we’ve been done with some contentious decisions over the last few weeks. The issues don’t seem to be the technology itself but the interpretation of the rules. With both of the goals there have been instances decisions have gone for or against us in matches. VAR was meant to avoid those things but the inconsistency of how the rules are applied remains and it has bitten us badly last few matches. 

[Roy Hobbs 2,174]

6 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said:

I can’t recall that goal or that rule ever being a thing before hearing it discussed in the summer tbh with you mate

It was Cantwell that scored actually.

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/stuart-kettlewell-backtracks-Rangers-offside-26593117

[rossco87 691]

Hard one to tell. From looking at the still it definitely looks onside but the angle isn’t exactly great and it is also assuming the cut on the grass is exactly perpendicular.

I don’t think the VAR use the same camera feed as Sky to draw the lines and I am pretty sure I read something where it is basically they use the goal line as the reference to get the line set and then effectively drag it up the pitch using the touchlines to make sure it stays perpendicular.  Saying that would hardly be a surprise if the pitch isn’t set out exactly square and fucks the whole system!!!

 

Cant see it as a massive conspiracy as to be honest the penalty shout against Lawrence could easily have been flagged up for review if we are wanting to go down the VAR wanted screw us over mindset.  It would have been incredibly soft but have definitely seen pens given for that level of contact.

 

Found it strange how little Sky wanted to look at it but that is a different discussion from whether the decision was correct or not.

[Blacky Bear 869]

Var manipulation to back up cheating bastard lino.

We are being shafted even more

 

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,731]

3 minutes ago, Blacky Bear said:

Var manipulation to back up cheating bastard lino.

We are being shafted even more

 

These things happen....

[graeme_4 34,574]

Off is off. The cameras are calibrated with the park. It’s not a guy drawing lines on Microsoft paint. 

[superallysbears 7,590]

The lines thing is a shambles,  I much prefer the system they use down south and in Europe, 3d 4d or whatever it is.

[Blacky Bear 869]

3 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

These things happen....

Corrupted to the core

[Roy Hobbs 2,174]

6 minutes ago, rossco87 said:

Hard one to tell. From looking at the still it definitely looks onside but the angle isn’t exactly great and it is also assuming the cut on the grass is exactly perpendicular.

I don’t think the VAR use the same camera feed as Sky to draw the lines and I am pretty sure I read something where it is basically they use the goal line as the reference to get the line set and then effectively drag it up the pitch using the touchlines to make sure it stays perpendicular.  Saying that would hardly be a surprise if the pitch isn’t set out exactly square and fucks the whole system!!!

 

Cant see it as a massive conspiracy as to be honest the penalty shout against Lawrence could easily have been flagged up for review if we are wanting to go down the VAR wanted screw us over mindset.  It would have been incredibly soft but have definitely seen pens given for that level of contact.

 

Found it strange how little Sky wanted to look at it but that is a different discussion from whether the decision was correct or not.

I don't think Lawrence had a hold of him at any time. He had his palms open. I thought the Butland one looked worse 

Sky showed the penalty claims multiple times but had the offside lines on for a second.

[Roy Hobbs 2,174]

1 minute ago, superallysbears said:

The lines thing is a shambles,  I much prefer the system they use down south and in Europe, 3d 4d or whatever it is.

AI system. Way too expensive I would think.