*****The Official Rangers vs Hearts Match Thread *****

[JackAlex93 11,372]

Comfortable win to go 5 clear

[The Specky Forum Organiser 65,094]

2 hours ago, BlueThunder said:

Sorry, but this is an example of people pilling on a player and chasing him away. Raskin was great last season.This season has been spoiled by injury

Not even close to being true. 

2 hours ago, SwallowsHisOwnSpunk said:

It’s the same people who 3/4 weeks ago were hounding Cantwell saying he’s finished at Rangers and not very good.

Fast forward to now and his form as gone back to his best and they are in hiding.

Its always the same at Rangers people cant see past players immediate form, there’s no doubt Raskin’s had a shocker of a season mostly due to injuries, it’s also true he’s got a lot of work to do to become a starting midfielder but anyone can see in his play last season that he’s got the raw attributes to be a very good CM.

He may or may not fufill that potential but he’s the sort of player we should aim to develop into a better player.

There is a massive difference between Cantwell and Raskin.

What raw attributes?

[BuffaloUSAGers 1,248]

Raskin will never live down his stupid statement about Chelsea while he is a Ranger. That’s his biggest problem.

[The Beast 9,230]

6 minutes ago, The Specky Forum Organiser said:

Not even close to being true. 

There is a massive difference between Cantwell and Raskin.

What raw attributes?

You've got a hard on for slating Raskin and that's fine. Whatever floats your boat.

But I believe in the manager and if he see's value in Raskin then I believe him.

[The Specky Forum Organiser 65,094]

3 minutes ago, The Beast said:

You've got a hard on for slating Raskin and that's fine. Whatever floats your boat.

But I believe in the manager and if he see's value in Raskin then I believe him.

He doesn't though, hence him competing with Jack to be 5th choice.

[TamCoopz 19,605]

31 minutes ago, The Beast said:

You've got a hard on for slating Raskin and that's fine. Whatever floats your boat.

But I believe in the manager and if he see's value in Raskin then I believe him.

Sees enough value that now sterling, brought in as full back cover, is ahead of him in midfield

[kelvd1873 7,201]

Fwiw I think the manager is currently dealing with Raskin coming back from injury in his own way. In time i think he will be a good player for us. At 22 he is the type of player we should be looking to develop and sell on eventually.

[BigBearButt 3,655]

3 hours ago, kelvd1873 said:

Fwiw I think the manager is currently dealing with Raskin coming back from injury in his own way. In time i think he will be a good player for us. At 22 he is the type of player we should be looking to develop and sell on eventually.

The issue with that is after a season and a half here you would be expecting him to be flying, he is out injured fair enough but after a strong start with us last season he has looked bang average this season and doesnt seem to have the attitude or appetite to be a success here. I dont see him anywhere near starting due to other players simply being better than him.

[Colin Traive 22,876]

5 minutes ago, BigBearButt said:

The issue with that is after a season and a half here you would be expecting him to be flying, he is out injured fair enough but after a strong start with us last season he has looked bang average this season and doesnt seem to have the attitude or appetite to be a success here. I dont see him anywhere near starting due to other players simply being better than him.

Raskin is one for the long term. Jack, Dowell and Lundstram (playing well at the moment admittedly) won’t be here forever. Lawrence still has to prove himself for me as well.

Bigger issue for me is that, like the forwards, we seem to have zero coming through from our youngsters.

[BigBearButt 3,655]

2 minutes ago, Colin Traive said:

Raskin is one for the long term. Jack, Dowell and Lundstram (playing well at the moment admittedly) won’t be here forever. Lawrence still has to prove himself for me as well.

Bigger issue for me is that, like the forwards, we seem to have zero coming through from our youngsters.

Is he for the long term though? He gave it all the billy big baws about using us as a stepping stone to the prem and then has failed to live up to early promise. He is what 1/3 through his contract currently and on his recent showing he needs to be in the team now and providing value which he simply is nowhere near doing. I hope I am wrong about the lad but i just dont see him as a starter now or in the future.

Also in terms of youngsters we have young Rice who performed well when used and has now disappeared.

[SkylineBlue 23,566]

Raskin is firmly down the pecking order for a position in that midfield, behind a guy who has primarily played as a right back for most of his career. 

I think there's potentially a player in there, but he needs to get his finger out and earn it. Right now he has no right to be in that midfield.

[ForeverAndEver 71,669]

13 hours ago, SwallowsHisOwnSpunk said:

It’s the same people who 3/4 weeks ago were hounding Cantwell saying he’s finished at Rangers and not very good.

Fast forward to now and his form as gone back to his best and they are in hiding.

Its always the same at Rangers people cant see past players immediate form, there’s no doubt Raskin’s had a shocker of a season mostly due to injuries, it’s also true he’s got a lot of work to do to become a starting midfielder but anyone can see in his play last season that he’s got the raw attributes to be a very good CM.

He may or may not fufill that potential but he’s the sort of player we should aim to develop into a better player.

Why do people make this myth up that because people get something wrong that they just disappear off the face of the Earth?

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,609]

Just win Rangers, don't care how, just win

Pile the pressure on they bastards for sundays game

[JackAlex93 11,372]

14 hours ago, BlueThunder said:

Sorry, but this is an example of people pilling on a player and chasing him away. Raskin was great last season. This season has been spoiled by injury

He was average. He is way down the pecking order for a starting jersey now

[.Williamson. 82,652]

In what world was Raskin great last season? He was ok and that was about the height of it 

[graeme_4 34,671]

29 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said:

Why do people make this myth up that because people get something wrong that they just disappear off the face of the Earth?

I also don’t think people were actually wrong. Cantwell was pish. PC hooked him after 30 mins at one point. Had contributed heehaw. 

He’s since got his finger out and putting in really good performances the last half dozen games.

Needs to keep it up now. 

[Bobby Hume 13,137]

46 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said:

Why do people make this myth up that because people get something wrong that they just disappear off the face of the Earth?

I was one who was disappointed with Cantwell's performances when he was off form .... I'm still here Huckleberry ... and back praising him now he has found his form again.

It's a case of praise or criticise .... and a supporters right to see it as it is .... I don't see many Harry Houdini's either mate.

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[GA1972 9,657]

Raskin is a 7/10 on his best day, a waste of a jersey on any other day 

Currently he’s even less use than a Ryan Jack that’s been past it for about 2/3 years and can barely move 

[JCDBigBear 10,830]

11 hours ago, TamCoopz said:

Sees enough value that now sterling, brought in as full back cover, is ahead of him in midfield

Sterling looked really poor at full back but has absolutely blossomed in midfield.  Doubt many saw that coming.

[BLUEDIGNITY 33,660]

Wee win on Saturday put the pressure on the athletic wing for their game next day, another banana skin for them to slip on and hey presto their car park will be awash in barriers and sharks come Sunday night. NICE👌

[born a blue nose 90,859]

Just now, JCDBigBear said:

Sterling looked really poor at full back but has absolutely blossomed in midfield.  Doubt many saw that coming.

Wasn't his first game at LB v the tarriers? Thought he was really good if I mind right. Would need a good run of games but I'm less worried about Tav moving on than I was previously with him at the club 

[ForeverAndEver 71,669]

Raskin wasn’t great last season, but he was good, and getting better towards the end of it. He looked good against Newcastle and then it went to shit.

He’s been back for nearly two months as well, not as if he’s just back and struggling for fitness

[JCDBigBear 10,830]

1 hour ago, BigBearButt said:

Is he for the long term though? He gave it all the billy big baws about using us as a stepping stone to the prem and then has failed to live up to early promise. He is what 1/3 through his contract currently and on his recent showing he needs to be in the team now and providing value which he simply is nowhere near doing. I hope I am wrong about the lad but i just dont see him as a starter now or in the future.

Also in terms of youngsters we have young Rice who performed well when used and has now disappeared.

Raskin only joined us 13 months ago.   He got rave posts on RM for his initial displays.  He has been out injured for a considerable period and needs to get back to his previous form.  The boy will only turn 23 in a couple of days and has more than 3 years left on his contract.  Hopefully PC can get him playing to his potential.

[JCDBigBear 10,830]

Back on topic, Saturday's game is a win at all costs with hopefully an early goal to get us off to a good start.   My starting 11 would be Butland, Tav, Goldson, Balogun, Barisic,  Lundstram, Sterling, Cantwell, McCausland, Silva, Cortes.

[Amokachi 3,052]

5 hours ago, kelvd1873 said:

Fwiw I think the manager is currently dealing with Raskin coming back from injury in his own way. In time i think he will be a good player for us. At 22 he is the type of player we should be looking to develop and sell on eventually.

He’s refreshed the way all our players come back from injury thank fuk.