celtic Face 25 actions regarding Historic Abuse

[magic8ball 27,904]

2 hours ago, Siam69 said:

I was talking to Gordon earlier, what you're saying is pretty much all he originally wanted, but to get an apology, there would have to be an acceptance of responsibility. And we all know their separate entity pish there. 

I could say a lot more, and stuff about Torbett's latest charges, but i don't want to say on an open forum. Suffice to say there is both criminal and civil cases ongoing.

They are disgusting, repugnant scum at that club, then and now by their actions. They put the supposed 'good name' of their club first and foremost over children getting raped on a near industrial scale. And now they're still trying to do the same, Club comes first over doing the right thing, not putting these victims through the horrendous ordeal again in court. But if they think people won't go to court against them, tell the truth, even if it means reliving the ordeal, they are very much mistaken.

How any decent minded individual can't see that it is so wrong, then and now, is beyond my comprehension. 

Dragging it out and not holding their hands up IMO will make the final outcome worse than it would have been .

I follow Gordon and Spotlight and some of the hints being dropped show that there will be lots revealed over the coming months.Stuff has been found out that may never have been found if the matter had been dealt with even as soon as 2 years ago .

[Siam69 27,861]

15 minutes ago, magic8ball said:

Dragging it out and not holding their hands up IMO will make the final outcome worse than it would have been .

I follow Gordon and Spotlight and some of the hints being dropped show that there will be lots revealed over the coming months.Stuff has been found out that may never have been found if the matter had been dealt with even as soon as 2 years ago .

Yes, he says it's been a long 2 years, and he reckons it will be another 2 years before he can disappear into the background. But he's more than motivated to see this through.

[born a blue nose 92,663]

Dig jock stein's body up and hang him 

[Clunge 872]

Court date for fresh charges against Cairney up.

 

https://twitter.com/Spotlight_CFC66/status/1445513813491474440?t=Ao_NpgSeLKiy6ZpSGR7zbg&s=08

[Blue Nosed Babe 21,427]

17 minutes ago, Clunge said:

Court date for fresh charges against Cairney up.

 

https://twitter.com/Spotlight_CFC66/status/1445513813491474440?t=Ao_NpgSeLKiy6ZpSGR7zbg&s=08

That is just the start of the sitting, could call any time that week.

[Colin Traive 23,836]

If a judge decides that the “separate entity” excuse is bogus (as any sane person knows), then he must punish them for trying to avoid responsibility and punishment, over and above whatever sanctions he decides appropriate for the original crimes.

It is the very definition of perverting the course of justice.

[superallysbears 8,199]

1 hour ago, born a blue nose said:

Dig jock stein's body up and hang him 

cremated more than likely 

[scottyscott1963 19,134]

10 hours ago, Hadron Collider said:

Saw that and was going to post it mate.This comes out the same day as the scum issue. 

Ooft!  

 

10 hours ago, Paisley Blue Loyal said:

Aye, They’ll definitely not like it if CSA becomes a Hot Topic given what has just come out from France which could potentially shine a big fuck off Spotlight on their Scummy club.

Itv news had a story about the Magdelene wash houses in Northern Ireland going back to the 60's,where the nuns took new born babies from their mothers and had them adopted.
These mothers,some as young as 14 were then put to work and used as slave labour.
There was compensation claims from the Government mentioned,and this is where i find it hard to get my head round is why the catholic church is not being held responsible,and every piece of real estate and building they own should be impounded by the state and the ground sold off to help pay the compensation.
The organisations who were mostly catholic run and receiving government money,ran homes all over the country and were responsible for abusing sexually and mentally,even in some cases children were murdered and tossed into huge unmarked graves.   

[scottyscott1963 19,134]

1 hour ago, Siam69 said:

Yes, he says it's been a long 2 years, and he reckons it will be another 2 years before he can disappear into the background. But he's more than motivated to see this through.

Really wish Gordon the strength and health to see a final satisfactory outcome,and all survivors.  

[magic8ball 27,904]

1 hour ago, Colin Traive said:

If a judge decides that the “separate entity” excuse is bogus (as any sane person knows), then he must punish them for trying to avoid responsibility and punishment, over and above whatever sanctions he decides appropriate for the original crimes.

It is the very definition of perverting the course of justice.

I think the SFA report will be significant in the final decision.

While much of it was a whitewash and key parts ignored .They did say that clubs have to take responsibility for associated clubs .Makes sense ,if senior clubs benefit from youth development or enjoy success from achievement then of course they also need to have consequences for anything negative .

[mrmojorisin 13,715]

1 hour ago, Colin Traive said:

If a judge decides that the “separate entity” excuse is bogus (as any sane person knows), then he must punish them for trying to avoid responsibility and punishment, over and above whatever sanctions he decides appropriate for the original crimes.

It is the very definition of perverting the course of justice.

Its a civil case 

Though i totally agree criminal charges should be brought on the lot of them 

[Hadron Collider 32,357]

4 hours ago, magic8ball said:

I think the SFA report will be significant in the final decision.

While much of it was a whitewash and key parts ignored .They did say that clubs have to take responsibility for associated clubs .Makes sense ,if senior clubs benefit from youth development or enjoy success from achievement then of course they also need to have consequences for anything negative .

Fuck the SFA report mate. Think they will deflect as much as possible on this. They are cunts as well. 

[mrmojorisin 13,715]

No other club had 9 paedophiles who have amassed 55 convictions between them 

No other club employed an already convicted child abuser 

No other club attempted to re-employ a known child abuser who was previously thrown out of the club for abusing kids. 

 

They are indeed "A club like no other" 

 

 

[Colin Traive 23,836]

6 hours ago, magic8ball said:

I think the SFA report will be significant in the final decision.

While much of it was a whitewash and key parts ignored .They did say that clubs have to take responsibility for associated clubs .Makes sense ,if senior clubs benefit from youth development or enjoy success from achievement then of course they also need to have consequences for anything negative .

I’d forgotten about that. The SFA effectively took away that final fig leaf and I hope that the judge is made aware of that point.

[kelvd1873 7,659]

5 hours ago, mrmojorisin said:

No other club had 9 paedophiles who have amassed 55 convictions between them 

No other club employed an already convicted child abuser 

No other club attempted to re-employ a known child abuser who was previously thrown out of the club for abusing kids. 

 

They are indeed "A club like no other" 

 

 

One club since 1888 when it’s suits them……

[DavieCooper74 1,434]

8 hours ago, scottyscott1963 said:

 

Itv news had a story about the Magdelene wash houses in Northern Ireland going back to the 60's,where the nuns took new born babies from their mothers and had them adopted.
 

Trust me when I say they had the exact same setup here in Scotland.

[Paisley Blue Loyal 11,794]

17 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said:

Starting to wonder if this was a big factor in McKay leaving, he caught wind of it after being in the job whilst it's also the same reason Lawwell left and those scumbags didn't notify McKay before appointing him or thought they could continue to cover it up.

 

I’d love to believe that mate but if Dominic McKay didn’t know that he would have to deal with The Fallout from their Sordid History (Assuming there is any Fallout ) given that he was their new Chief Executive then he must have been walking around with his head up his arse.

[magic8ball 27,904]

40 minutes ago, Paisley Blue Loyal said:

I’d love to believe that mate but if Dominic McKay didn’t know that he would have to deal with The Fallout from their Sordid History (Assuming there is any Fallout ) given that he was their new Chief Executive then he must have been walking around with his head up his arse.

Agree .The only thing could be that he wasn’t aware of the scale of the problem .

[Colin Traive 23,836]

1 hour ago, Rangers_no1 said:

Starting to wonder if this was a big factor in McKay leaving, he caught wind of it after being in the job whilst it's also the same reason Lawwell left and those scumbags didn't notify McKay before appointing him or thought they could continue to cover it up.

 

Often wondered too if Eddie Howe was made aware of the tsunami on the horizon and asked himself: “do I want to get (indirectly) involved in all of that?”

As someone said earlier, a father taking a child to cheer on a team with that history, at the very location where so many atrocities took place, really has to have a long, hard look at his standards as a father.

Easy for us to say but, if that scale of abuse AND the cynical cover up, had happened at Ibrox, I personally would have disowned the club and gone back to following the juniors.

[dougie76 15,451]

Sadly far too late for some.

[scottyscott1963 19,134]

10 hours ago, Hadron Collider said:

Fuck the SFA report mate. Think they will deflect as much as possible on this. They are cunts as well. 

The report will have one word in it,and guaranteed it will say.
     WHATABOUTERY

[bluenoz 32,433]

I never really saw the relation of child crimes and sporting integrity until now. There have been murmurs for months that the court cases were coming. Perhaps Howe and McKay had inside information, who knows? But one thing is for certain, celtic (and Lawwell) knew it was coming. And yet how much money have they spent this summer on signings? Instead of being spendthrift in the transfer window, that money should have been put aside for the victims. That definitely brings sporting integrity into play.

[GersInCanada 7,775]

The SFA report is meaningless. The matter is now in court.

If the victims win then scum can expect a slap on the wrist from the SFA in their report. If the victims lose (and I cannot see how) then the 2nd version of their report exonerating scum will be the published one.

[geneva_ger 9,681]

34 minutes ago, GersInCanada said:

The SFA report is meaningless. The matter is now in court.

If the victims win then scum can expect a slap on the wrist from the SFA in their report. If the victims lose (and I cannot see how) then the 2nd version of their report exonerating scum will be the published one.

No way the legal system will prioritise a report from a piece of shit over the law of the land.

They're doomed I tell you.

[Colin Traive 23,836]

52 minutes ago, GersInCanada said:

The SFA report is meaningless. The matter is now in court.

If the victims win then scum can expect a slap on the wrist from the SFA in their report. If the victims lose (and I cannot see how) then the 2nd version of their report exonerating scum will be the published one.

It certainly is not meaningless.

The governing body of the game held an in depth, independent review of this subject in Scottish football.

Their conclusion, although not binding on any court, made it clear that the parent club has ultimate responsibility for the boys/youth teams bearing the club’s name and wearing their colours and badge.

There is no way that a judge will simply disregard the independent findings of the governing body. Why on earth would he?

Binding, no - but certainly influential.