John Souttar

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3 minutes ago, Bakbear said:

Sometimes feels like everyone is just itching for an argument on here 😂

we absolutely battered Hearts defence yesterday with or without a central striker. Halkett and Souttar stood against that battering admirably. Even their wee right back battled valiantly against a total hammering from Kent and Bassey. He would have slept well last night and he will be sore this morning. 
Souttar played very well yesterday. He was the Hearts man of the match and some of them think he was the best player on the pitch. 

While I am here, five stars is not saying Souttar is better than Goldson. What he said is that Souttar is a better distributor of the ball than Goldson. That should be debated on its merits because Goldson has been pretty good with long balls over the top and I haven’t seen enough of Souttar to judge. But let’s not argue the wrong point. 😂

Thanks for a good descriptive answer, I have only just managed to see the goals. Recent games, without our recognised strikers, we have not played to compete with the opposition central defence and did not know if that was the case yesterday.

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6 hours ago, Leftpegcoopz11 said:

He's an upgrade to Goldson! Get a grip 

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He’ll improve playing for us quality signing he is comfortable with the ball at his feet probably due to the fact he has also been played as a defensive mid before

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He was good for them yesterday, my only concern is can he stay injury free or will that become a problem. Hopefully our medical and training staff can help.

I hope for him and us he can put his injury problems behind him. 

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He is as good as you can get in terms of getting more scottish players in and around the first 11 and squad. I was amazed he played so well down to him being out for so long. 

Great signing if we can keep him off the injury table. 

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15 hours ago, JM1872 said:

Looking forward to him getting started. Just one point though - I really hope he can deliver the volume of games that Goldson and Tav do. We have had our fair share of injury prone players over the last 4 years. 

Not a snowballs hope in hell. We will hopefully get more out of him than Hearts due to our sport science and fitness teams being better - but he will still always be at the risk of breaking down. 

Looking at his career thus far, he's only ever managed to play 35+ games in a single season once! 

Over the last 2 seasons Goldson has played 116 games. Over the last 5 seasons: Souttar has played 118 games.

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11 minutes ago, Iakona said:

Not a snowballs hope in hell. We will hopefully get more out of him than Hearts due to our sport science and fitness teams being better - but he will still always be at the risk of breaking down. 

Looking at his career thus far, he's only ever managed to play 35+ games in a single season once! 

Over the last 2 seasons Goldson has played 116 games. Over the last 5 seasons: Souttar has played 118 games.

In the five years before joining us, Goldson had played 139 games (Mainly for Shrewsbury 90/139)

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25 minutes ago, The Dude said:

In the five years before joining us, Goldson had played 139 games.

And? Soutar's limited app's are solely down to injuries that have consistently plagued him throughout his career thus far. 

Goldson had a spell out in 2017 due to his potentially life threatening heart surgery but beyond that and growing pains as a youth, you'll be hard pressed to find any extended periods of injury. His limited app's prior to us was mostly down to not being selected or viewed as good enough... nothing to do with him being injury prone.

Slightly different circumstances...

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He looks a bit lightweight have to get training wi Calvin. 

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4 hours ago, The Dude said:

In the five years before joining us, Goldson had played 139 games (Mainly for Shrewsbury 90/139)

Didn't Goldson have the heart op during that spell?

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35 minutes ago, Blumhoilann said:

Didn't Goldson have the heart op during that spell?

Around a year before joining us. Remember when folk were worried Goldson's heart op could cause problems for him playing for us consistently?

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 No issues on his ability , just a bit worried on him staying free of injury . 

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It's amazing that yesterday everyone was screaming for gio to bring on a striker because we were missing loads of chances, aribo especially

Yet today apparently souttar coasted the game yesterday essentially 🤣🤣

Roofe or morelos played yesterday we take about 4 or 5 off hearts before ET, gordon and poor misses saved hearts, not their defence

Souttar will not be good enough to start for us, especially in europe 

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First time I’ve ever noticed him tbf, played well yesterday.

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Haven't watched Hearts a lot, so would be interested to hear if that was his normal form, or a one off performance. However, he had a great game it has to be said. I think he seems to think quicker than Goldson does. Reacted quickly to snuff out situations before they arose. If he can stay fit, and can handle the pressure the jersey brings, he'll be a great signing! 

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2 hours ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

It's amazing that yesterday everyone was screaming for gio to bring on a striker because we were missing loads of chances, aribo especially

Yet today apparently souttar coasted the game yesterday essentially 🤣🤣

Roofe or morelos played yesterday we take about 4 or 5 off hearts before ET, gordon and poor misses saved hearts, not their defence

Souttar will not be good enough to start for us, especially in europe 

David Weir had torrid times in Scotland before us. Remember Souttar is playing in front of guys who can't retain the ball and invite pressure on. It's virtually impossible not to face countless attacks and chances when that's the case.

With us we will be on top of the game 90 percent of the time.

Let's see him play in our team before making sweeping statements like this. Was the exact same with Ryan Jack too

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6 minutes ago, The Godfather said:

David Weir had torrid times in Scotland before us. Remember Souttar is playing in front of guys who can't retain the ball and invite pressure on. It's virtually impossible not to face countless attacks and chances when that's the case.

With us we will be on top of the game 90 percent of the time.

Let's see him play in our team before making sweeping statements like this. Was the exact same with Ryan Jack too

Bang on. The midfield offered no protection at all. 

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He was good and the way we are improving  players he will be very good no doubt.

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Souttar (if he's signed), Roofe and other sick notes will likely not 'benefit from our superior medical teams' any time soon. Our well respected club doctor Mark Waller resigned yesterday to go join Leicester City

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4 hours ago, The Dude said:

Around a year before joining us. Remember when folk were worried Goldson's heart op could cause problems for him playing for us consistently?

Again, it's not even close to the same thing.

Goldson had a potentially life threatening health condition that was only discovered after a routine health check in 2017. It wasn't a re-occurring injury that had plagued his career prior to being discovered. By Goldson's own admission he was told by several Doctors that his professional career could be over. It was 50/50... Based on that alone our fans were entirely correct to be concerned given the club was shelling out over £3m for him - it was a massive gamble, one that has fortunately paid off for both parties.

Souttar on the other hand has had legs made of chocolate for his whole career. At nearly 26 years of age it's probably not going to improve now. 

 

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49 minutes ago, Flatcap said:

Souttar (if he's signed), Roofe and other sick notes will likely not 'benefit from our superior medical teams' any time soon. Our well respected club doctor Mark Waller resigned yesterday to go join Leicester City

Thanks for ruining a good topic. 😄

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2 hours ago, The Godfather said:

David Weir had torrid times in Scotland before us. Remember Souttar is playing in front of guys who can't retain the ball and invite pressure on. It's virtually impossible not to face countless attacks and chances when that's the case.

With us we will be on top of the game 90 percent of the time.

Let's see him play in our team before making sweeping statements like this. Was the exact same with Ryan Jack too

Would these be the same sweeping statements like how he was immense yesterday against no strikers?

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1 hour ago, Roy Hobbs said:

Bang on. The midfield offered no protection at all. 

Its not the midfield protection thats the worry, how many times did aribo get a header or go through on goal? 

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We’ve no idea how it will go. He looked good and obviously has something about him. I’ll wait until he’s played. 
 

Knew fuck all about Goldson and I knew loads about Bruno Alves 

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4 hours ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

It's amazing that yesterday everyone was screaming for gio to bring on a striker because we were missing loads of chances, aribo especially

Yet today apparently souttar coasted the game yesterday essentially 🤣🤣

Roofe or morelos played yesterday we take about 4 or 5 off hearts before ET, gordon and poor misses saved hearts, not their defence

Souttar will not be good enough to start for us, especially in europe 

Hes a domestic signing, with scotland caps can improove on the european stage, still only 25, so can become a modern Davie Weir for us imo