graeme_4 37,681 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 56 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: Who else are we desperate to get back then? I’d argue just Jack. So you’re correct- two Our team is better with Aribo, Helander, Jack and Roofe in it. Not really sure what any one is arguing about here. Nk89 and BlueSuedeSambas 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR3 12,879 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: looking back at the last game against Hearts we were very lucky to come away with three points and were almost equally as poor. if you’re trying to say that we were almost equally as poor at Tynecastle winning 2-0 away as that last night then I see games completely different from you. Hearts away was a really good performance. Last night was fucking shocking. To compare the two leaves me pretty much speechless here and questioning what you’re seeing. Kaydubya11, BillStruthBear and Drunk and disorderly. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,893 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: Just hope this was a one off but looking back at the last game against Hearts we were very lucky to come away with three points and were almost equally as poor. Again, it was the high press from hearts that we struggled with. Gio needs to address that sooner rather than later. I’m not buying we were lucky to win that game. They had chances, so what? So does every team. We took hours early and kept a clean sheet the rest of the game. Its a difficult place to go. Ladytonbear 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nk89 1,440 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: Just hope this was a one off but looking back at the last game against Hearts we were very lucky to come away with three points and were almost equally as poor. Again, it was the high press from hearts that we struggled with. Gio needs to address that sooner rather than later. And struggled against Hibs with a late penalty and at home to Dundee Utd needed a late penalty! I think Souttar coming out with the ball at the back could improve us massively Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 21,706 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: Just hope this was a one off but looking back at the last game against Hearts we were very lucky to come away with three points and were almost equally as poor. Again, it was the high press from hearts that we struggled with. Gio needs to address that sooner rather than later. We created plenty against Hearts but gave away a lot of chances. Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen away we've got 7 points out of 9 but luck's played its part. HG5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 21,706 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nk89 said: And struggled against Hibs with a late penalty and at home to Dundee Utd needed a late penalty! I think Souttar coming out with the ball at the back could improve us massively Actually forgot about the Dundee United game it was that bad. The signs are there unfortunately. Nk89, HG5 and BlueAvenger 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 19,702 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Essandoh said: I’m not buying we were lucky to win that game. They had chances, so what? So does every team. We took hours early and kept a clean sheet the rest of the game. Its a difficult place to go. You should take a minute or 60 to write that again mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,893 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 We aren’t going to bulldoze teams every game It’s puzzling that the wins against Hibs, Hearts & Dundee United are now being considered struggles and ‘writing on the wall’ flash-points , as opposed to massive hard-fought wins against the difficult teams in the league. We deserved to win in every single one of those games. You could point to almost every victory and pick out a moment in the game that could’ve changed its momentum. That’s football. BlueSuedeSambas, Drunk and disorderly., Negri's lovechild and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,893 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Just now, Malkytfp1 said: You should take a minute or 60 to write that again mate. Thankfully you didn’t spot it earlier when I sneakily edited my post that said we’d got 27 points from a possible 29 Caffeine shortage Malkytfp1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 19,702 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Essandoh said: Thankfully you didn’t spot it earlier when I sneakily edited my post that said we’d got 27 points from a possible 29 Caffeine shortage 🤣 Essandoh 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens 945 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 34 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: Just hope this was a one off but looking back at the last game against Hearts we were very lucky to come away with three points and were almost equally as poor. Again, it was the high press from hearts that we struggled with. Gio needs to address that sooner rather than later. I agree and was hoping someone else would say it tbh, because we have been (at times) way, way too passive. We can't keep being like that as we won't get away with it. Malkytfp1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 21,706 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Essandoh said: We aren’t going to bulldoze teams every game It’s puzzling that the wins against Hibs, Hearts & Dundee United are now being considered struggles and ‘writing on the wall’ flash-points , as opposed to massive hard-fought wins against the difficult teams in the league. We deserved to win in every single one of those games. You could point to almost every victory and pick out a moment in the game that could’ve changed its momentum. That’s football. Nobody expects to bulldoze every team. Usually the pish you see on here after a bad result as if to offer some perspective. We were pish. We were pish in the games against Hibs and Dundee Hibs and created next to nothing. Hearts game we created chances. Point is 4 games outwith the scum that are traditional big games and we've looked shaky/shite in 3/4. We won't get Porteous diving in and giving away a penalty to bail us out or the Dundee United player handling it in the box for no reason to bail us out in every game against these clubs, our qualiry has to shine through and it isn't. Even last night was a howler between the sheep defence and keeper which led us to score. HG5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 19,702 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 28 minutes ago, CR3 said: if you’re trying to say that we were almost equally as poor at Tynecastle winning 2-0 away as that last night then I see games completely different from you. Hearts away was a really good performance. Last night was fucking shocking. To compare the two leaves me pretty much speechless here and questioning what you’re seeing. I think we were better against Hearts than we were last night, that's why I said almost as poor. You seeing Hearts away as a really good performance is also a bit different to what I seen.. Hearts dominated us for large spells. They had more possession, more shots, more passes, more corners, hit the bar twice and generally we were a bit lucky to come away with 3 points. Its easy to get mixed up with a good performance and a good result. My point is these better quality teams who press high and don't just park the bus are causing us problems and we haven't adapted to it well. HG5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 73,990 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Essandoh said: We aren’t going to bulldoze teams every game It’s puzzling that the wins against Hibs, Hearts & Dundee United are now being considered struggles and ‘writing on the wall’ flash-points , as opposed to massive hard-fought wins against the difficult teams in the league. We deserved to win in every single one of those games. You could point to almost every victory and pick out a moment in the game that could’ve changed its momentum. That’s football. Dundee United and Hibs were both struggles though, and to say we ‘deserved’ to win either is debatable Malkytfp1 and HG5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delparlane 6,010 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 5 hours ago, Colin Traive said: I remember when we signed Terry Hurlock for games like these and the scum. Not the most skilful player and we had better already at the club but he had a presence and could not be intimidated. Don’t remember us ever being bullied when he was playing. A bit of finesse around an enforcer from guys like Kamara is fine but we need a much stronger core, we’re too weak, especially against teams who play against us as if their families’ lives depended on it. You need to win that battle and earn that right to play the pretty stuff. This^. Said it for a while, we need some home-grown players with teeth in the mix like Hurlock, Bomber, Ian Ferguson, or Souness. Ours is a league of hammer throwers - we all know it - and it makes sense to have a few in there to back up the skill positions - folk brought up with the mindset that won’t back down. HG5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Macklin 620 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Well that was pish. Started not too bad, looking pretty slick, but after the goal looked like half the team were still working off their Xmas dinner. No dig in the middle, looked a yard slower and half as hungry as Aberdeen, and missing Aribo big time. Absolute shocker of a performance from Clancy which didn't help, and Alfie was unlucky that volley near the end didn't go into the top corner. Said to a pal I would have sacrificed my firstborn to have seen Alfie nutmegging that classless rat Brown and unleashing a screamer in the dying seconds. One of the inevitable bumps in the road to 56. Learn from it, move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 26,511 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 weeks today we go to parkhead. We've got to find our form again ASAP any repeat of last night will see us bang in trouble BlueAvenger 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Vandenbroucke 27,025 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, KingKirk said: 2 weeks today we go to parkhead. We've got to find our form again ASAP any repeat of last night will see us bang in trouble Won our last 9 league games in a row before last night scottyscott1963 and BridgeIsBlue 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBearButt 3,923 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 30 minutes ago, KingKirk said: 2 weeks today we go to parkhead. We've got to find our form again ASAP any repeat of last night will see us bang in trouble You can guarantee if we find form they will try and reschedule it. KingKirk and HG5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 26,511 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 30 minutes ago, Bronzy said: Won our last 9 league games in a row before last night Course but can tell we hadn't played in 3 weeks. We need to get upto speed ASAP graeme_4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIRB_72 4,156 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Is there any time frame for how long Davis and Arfield are out for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearInTheToon 1,606 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 I'm still ragin' and at a loss from last night. Shambolic performance and shit tactics which meant we had zero spark, intensity or desire to dominate them (which we should be doing every day of the week against that mob). Our front 3/4 players being unable to hold up, keep and be productive with the ball is way too often a recurring theme in the tougher away fixtures. On top of that, our midfield totally lacks leadership or proper presence when the likes of Davis, Arfield or Jack aren't there. Players need to get their fucking fingers out and Gio needs to not repeat such tactics again. Wishful thinking but I'd love to think he'd be asked in this week's pc why it was so negative. BlueAvenger, Juniorsparkie and HG5 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vision 16,932 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Was gonna post this in the Clancy thread but al just get oor it ayro 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayro 3,534 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Vision said: Was gonna post this in the Clancy thread but al just get oor it Is that was GvB was referring to about not having VAR as that is a free kick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vision 16,932 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, ayro said: Is that was GvB was referring to about not having VAR as that is a free kick? Could have been, there was plenty instances in the game where VAR could have helped Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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