esquire8 43,590 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Remember this is a board that paid 6 figures to host a bunch of MPs/MSPs for a 150th celebratory piss up not once but twice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post STEPPS BOY 75,034 Posted September 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Colin Traive said: Not defending the board but people have short memories. If we’re in a mess now, how would you describe life under the Easdales? Or, worse still, the period before that? The board’s failing is to think stability and an even keel financially is “job done”. In that sense, they are completely out of touch. There was a time when we craved stability but, for the support, that was to be no more than a step on our march back to our rightful place - it was never the end of the road. If they think their work is done, they are are sadly mistaken. No one is criticising the investors as such it’s the guys they have employed in the exec board. David Graham - employed purely on basis that his father in law has a house next to DP. Stewart Robertson - A guy from Motherwell. Bisgrove. Dickson The we get onto our SLO. Seems like a nice guy but is only good for traffic reports. The Archer, eskbankloyal, The Godfather and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theweebluenose 4,335 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 The people who "held" the previous board to account are now their lackeys, seven years since the spivs were ousted and some are still using them as an excuse or as a comparison to how the current board perform. dougie76, HG5 and Fred H Crawford 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossco87 708 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Ultimately all our current issues can be traced back to our failure to implement the player trading model we have been told for so long is our future. We are now 3/4 years into this project and have sold Bassey, Aribo and Patterson whilst failing to convert alleged interest in Morelos, Kent, Hagi, Goldson, Kamara, Sakala etc etc. While we as a support would have been gutted to see most of them leave, we are now seeing the results of our DofF’s failures to move players on and recruit appropriate replacements as we now have a bloated squad that lacks the quality required in key positions don’t have the budget required to go out and address those weaknesses. DiamondDan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,590 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 7 hours ago, STEPPS BOY said: No one is criticising the investors as such it’s the guys they have employed in the exec board. David Graham - employed purely on basis that his father in law has a house next to DP. Stewart Robertson - A guy from Motherwell. Bisgrove. Dickson The we get onto our SLO. Seems like a nice guy but is only good for traffic reports. How the fuck Dickson has managed to last so long at the club while its finances were upto this year shot to bits is anyones guess. He knows where bodies are buried. Robertson is a finance guy and always will be a finance guy. Shouldn't be anywhere near a club of this stature. Graham is simply a PR nightmare. Gave fan media guys unprecedented levels of legitimacy for a club our size whilst playing them off MSM who still get the exclusives regardless. Bisgrove only issue is not caring about the support and not learning the do's and don'ts. If anything the only guy who should keep his job. Ross Wilson is a serial failure who talks a good game but always comes up short, no pun intended. Last and least there's Blair. Who gives a fuck about him really. Now the guy really in charge of putting these clowns in position is Park Jr, who, after Pedro, shouldn't even have a seat in the board let alone running the place. Davemac 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,804 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 I see the RSA have come out and asked for a meeting with the club. Whilst it's awfully written and punctuation all over the place. This is something I can't get behind. Our club needs a reboot a kick up the arse and we need to hear more from the executive board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 110,129 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 6 hours ago, KingKirk said: I see the RSA have come out and asked for a meeting with the club. Whilst it's awfully written and punctuation all over the place. This is something I can't get behind. Our club needs a reboot a kick up the arse and we need to hear more from the executive board. Coming from someone as articulate as you, it must be bad Bluekev and The Godfather 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,307 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 You would think given how much we’ve raised our profile in last few years there would be a few suitors around 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,804 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 2 hours ago, RFC55 said: Coming from someone as articulate as you, it must be bad I couldn't give a fuck it's just no the best look🤣 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guest Posted September 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, tm91 said: I honestly suspect the board are comfortable finishing 2nd with the occasional title so long as the Euro money keeps rolling in. Their decisions don't suggest much in the way of ambition. I don't understand the transfer strategy at all. The whole point of 'buy low, sell high' is that you buy cheap, sell high, then reinvest the profits in better players, get the success you need to show them off, and then sell them off for even bigger profits. There's no discernible strategy about the first team players we buy and the board are far too risk-averse. There's sound financial management, and then there's settling. The board seem happy to settle and hope for the best. Yep exactly. We speak about "buy low, sell high" and developing young players but in the summer we: - gave Arfield, Davis + McGregor new contracts, blocking the pathway for younger players + they have 0 resale value - signed Ben Davies for £4m, a 27 year old who has mostly played in the English Championship who we'll be lucky to recover a fee for - signed Antonio Colak for £2m, a 28 year old (29 next week) who we'll be lucky to recover a fee for - signed Tom Lawrence on a free, another 28 year old (29 in January) The only 'development' players we signed were Matondo, Yilmaz and Tillman (who is on a loan, with Bayern holding a buy-back so we are unlikely to ever make Bassey-type money off him). Matondo looks every bit as average as Schalke + Stoke fans said he was, Yilmaz is still a complete unknown. Where's the plan? Where's the strategy? What *is* our style of football? Where do the signed players fit within that style? You can't develop players if nobody knows what the fuck is going on. Skov Olsen has been class for Brugge, Xavi Simons + Veerman will go on for big money from PSV. We missed out on these guys due to us scrimping on players in order to pay for fancy hospitality suites. A fuckin nonsense The Archer, BlueKnight87, Kitey79 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,245 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 22 minutes ago, psb07158 said: Yep exactly. We speak about "buy low, sell high" and developing young players but in the summer we: - gave Arfield, Davis + McGregor new contracts, blocking the pathway for younger players + they have 0 resale value - signed Ben Davies for £4m, a 27 year old who has mostly played in the English Championship who we'll be lucky to recover a fee for - signed Antonio Colak for £2m, a 28 year old (29 next week) who we'll be lucky to recover a fee for - signed Tom Lawrence on a free, another 28 year old (29 in January) The only 'development' players we signed were Matondo, Yilmaz and Tillman (who is on a loan, with Bayern holding a buy-back so we are unlikely to ever make Bassey-type money off him). Matondo looks every bit as average as Schalke + Stoke fans said he was, Yilmaz is still a complete unknown. Where's the plan? Where's the strategy? What *is* our style of football? Where do the signed players fit within that style? You can't develop players if nobody knows what the fuck is going on. Skov Olsen has been class for Brugge, Xavi Simons + Veerman will go on for big money from PSV. We missed out on these guys due to us scrimping on players in order to pay for fancy hospitality suites. A fuckin nonsense Skov Olsen was pretty much the ideal player to solve our RW issue, if ever there was a time to push the boat out for a player that was it. HG5, Kitey79 and Laudrupsleftfoot 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guest Posted September 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 minute ago, 6superbarry6 said: Skov Olsen was pretty much the ideal player to solve our RW issue, if ever there was a time to push the boat out for a player that was it. 11 goals + 11 assists in 25 games since signing for Brugge. Regular for the Danish international team now too, scored v Austria back in June. Only 22 (23 in Dec), 6ft2 winger who can handle the physical aspect just fine. Can't believe we didn't fucking seal the deal. 6superbarry6, BlueKnight87, SANDYGER and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,245 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 minute ago, psb07158 said: 11 goals + 11 assists in 25 games since signing for Brugge. Regular for the Danish international team now too, scored v Austria back in June. Only 22 (23 in Dec), 6ft2 winger who can handle the physical aspect just fine. Can't believe we didn't fucking seal the deal. Another Ross Wilson masterclass, I can’t think of him ever securing his top target seems like we are working our way down the list and ending up with 3/4th choice at best, his tenure has been shambolic tbh. We needed 3 positions upgraded as a priority this summer RW, CM and GK and we got none of them, pretty much sums his time here up. JCDBigBear, BlueKnight87 and HG5 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,464 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 19 hours ago, esquire8 said: Remember this is a board that paid 6 figures to host a bunch of MPs/MSPs for a 150th celebratory piss up not once but twice. You are a wrong un. Plain and simple. A no righter of the highest order. Goodbye. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,590 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, TEFTONG said: You are a wrong un. Plain and simple. A no righter of the highest order. Goodbye. What did I post that was wrong? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BlueKnight87 17,432 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 2 hours ago, psb07158 said: Yep exactly. We speak about "buy low, sell high" and developing young players but in the summer we: - gave Arfield, Davis + McGregor new contracts, blocking the pathway for younger players + they have 0 resale value - signed Ben Davies for £4m, a 27 year old who has mostly played in the English Championship who we'll be lucky to recover a fee for - signed Antonio Colak for £2m, a 28 year old (29 next week) who we'll be lucky to recover a fee for - signed Tom Lawrence on a free, another 28 year old (29 in January) The only 'development' players we signed were Matondo, Yilmaz and Tillman (who is on a loan, with Bayern holding a buy-back so we are unlikely to ever make Bassey-type money off him). Matondo looks every bit as average as Schalke + Stoke fans said he was, Yilmaz is still a complete unknown. Where's the plan? Where's the strategy? What *is* our style of football? Where do the signed players fit within that style? You can't develop players if nobody knows what the fuck is going on. Skov Olsen has been class for Brugge, Xavi Simons + Veerman will go on for big money from PSV. We missed out on these guys due to us scrimping on players in order to pay for fancy hospitality suites. A fuckin nonsense Spot on the lack of planning and clear system is hurting us. Compare us to them in recruitment. They have a clear system of play and recruit players that fit it and contribute immediately. If FFP restricted our spending. Then surely what was available should have went in different areas. Yes we needed a CB and LB. But did it require our 2 biggest fees to do it. Goalkeeper we've fucked that. Giving mcgregor a new deal meant we weren't recruiting a new GK. McLaughlin got no 1 and has showing he's not going to be good enough. If mcgregor comes back into 1st team we also know he's on a down turn and will make mistakes. RW badly needed a first team ready player that can contribute straight away. Matondo as you said is development player. CM yet another window and we've not added. Tillman and Lawrence are AM. We need a CM that can link up play and distribute the ball quickly. Kitey79 and RangersMedia 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,925 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 7 hours ago, tm91 said: I honestly suspect the board are comfortable finishing 2nd with the occasional title so long as the Euro money keeps rolling in. Their decisions don't suggest much in the way of ambition. I don't understand the transfer strategy at all. The whole point of 'buy low, sell high' is that you buy cheap, sell high, then reinvest the profits in better players, get the success you need to show them off, and then sell them off for even bigger profits. There's no discernible strategy about the first team players we buy and the board are far too risk-averse. There's sound financial management, and then there's settling. The board seem happy to settle and hope for the best. Except in a couple years time the country coefficient might be pish enough that second doesn't even grant a crack at CL, and for us to go even close to break even we'd need a europa league final appearance that season So if the board only care about euro money, then finishing 1st should be their fundamental aim every season no matter what HG5 and BlackpoolBear1952 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,925 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 7 hours ago, psb07158 said: Yep exactly. We speak about "buy low, sell high" and developing young players but in the summer we: - gave Arfield, Davis + McGregor new contracts, blocking the pathway for younger players + they have 0 resale value - signed Ben Davies for £4m, a 27 year old who has mostly played in the English Championship who we'll be lucky to recover a fee for - signed Antonio Colak for £2m, a 28 year old (29 next week) who we'll be lucky to recover a fee for - signed Tom Lawrence on a free, another 28 year old (29 in January) The only 'development' players we signed were Matondo, Yilmaz and Tillman (who is on a loan, with Bayern holding a buy-back so we are unlikely to ever make Bassey-type money off him). Matondo looks every bit as average as Schalke + Stoke fans said he was, Yilmaz is still a complete unknown. Where's the plan? Where's the strategy? What *is* our style of football? Where do the signed players fit within that style? You can't develop players if nobody knows what the fuck is going on. Skov Olsen has been class for Brugge, Xavi Simons + Veerman will go on for big money from PSV. We missed out on these guys due to us scrimping on players in order to pay for fancy hospitality suites. A fuckin nonsense Arfield and mcgregor will be for the euro quota, davis i totally agree with you though Davies was likely signed because we need experience at the back, same with souttar, imagine the uproar if we only signed a young untried centre half and promoted king to 3rd choice etc, look at how raw katic was when we came here, and we didnt give him time to settle and grow into the role Colak again is experience, and wether we make a fee back on him or not, he scored 3 times in 4 CL qualifiers, more than earned his fee back Same for Lawrence, again its experience to supplement youth, We did sign 3 development players, to go along with king, devine, lowry and mccann who will (by looks of it) get as much game time as patterson, probably more at times But regarding olsen, Simmons and veerman, it was never even confirmed that these guys were remotely interested in coming here, same with that defender that went to germany instead We got hung up on media links, As for our style of football, fuck knows if we have one, surely we must, however when guys like kent, goldson, kamara, and even tav are off the boil, no style will work, id never have started kamara on sat after his horror show in feb against them, and tbh id drop kent for this weekend and give mccann a place, but thats just me, we dont see them train or anything, HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LochendBilly 8,423 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Anyone know where to get some sharks? HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 11,338 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 9 hours ago, psb07158 said: Yep exactly. We speak about "buy low, sell high" and developing young players but in the summer we: - gave Arfield, Davis + McGregor new contracts, blocking the pathway for younger players + they have 0 resale value - signed Ben Davies for £4m, a 27 year old who has mostly played in the English Championship who we'll be lucky to recover a fee for - signed Antonio Colak for £2m, a 28 year old (29 next week) who we'll be lucky to recover a fee for - signed Tom Lawrence on a free, another 28 year old (29 in January) The only 'development' players we signed were Matondo, Yilmaz and Tillman (who is on a loan, with Bayern holding a buy-back so we are unlikely to ever make Bassey-type money off him). Matondo looks every bit as average as Schalke + Stoke fans said he was, Yilmaz is still a complete unknown. Where's the plan? Where's the strategy? What *is* our style of football? Where do the signed players fit within that style? You can't develop players if nobody knows what the fuck is going on. Skov Olsen has been class for Brugge, Xavi Simons + Veerman will go on for big money from PSV. We missed out on these guys due to us scrimping on players in order to pay for fancy hospitality suites. A fuckin nonsense It's not necessarily the strategy that's wrong - you're always going to need to bring in a few players in or around their peak who you might not get the same fee back for, but for whatever reason I suspect we're regularly starting out with a list and ending up with the 2nd, 3rd or 4th choice on it. Staggered if the likes of Davies and Matondo were the number 1 targets for centre back and right wing respectively. If we'd have brought in Olsen, Simons and possibly Veerman (I didn't think he was that good against us) we'd be in much better shape. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob1873 417 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 On 03/09/2022 at 14:37, The Godfather said: Need chased and made accountable They have rinsed us the cunts Bang on. Every leadership group has a time frame and theirs ended with #55. The $64000 question is who would replace them but not knowing that answer is not a reason to stick with the status quo. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robborobson 76 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 On 04/09/2022 at 16:51, esquire8 said: Remember this is a board that paid 6 figures to host a bunch of MPs/MSPs for a 150th celebratory piss up not once but twice. Most who despise us Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,860 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 21 hours ago, KingKirk said: I see the RSA have come out and asked for a meeting with the club. Whilst it's awfully written and punctuation all over the place. This is something I can't get behind. Our club needs a reboot a kick up the arse and we need to hear more from the executive board. Why can't? KingKirk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 31,270 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Like him or hate him, everything appears stagnant since Dave King left. Communication is non-existent and the club are less spendthrift. bassettger, BlueAvenger and superallysbears 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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