Laudrupsleftfoot 11,023 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Hagi > Lammers. Beale’s a wank. Jimfanciesthedude 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven33jackie 1,942 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Would prefer to see him stay and keep pressure on those on front of him. Came on yesterday and showed good quality when on the ball. If guys like Lammers, Sima and Dowell don't start to influence games then Hagi or others can only be ignored for so long. It's called competition for places, something we have missed for a longtime. The same competition for places will exist at any club he goes to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
butthole 149 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, AGM_72 said: Hagi really polarises our support. He made plenty of important contributions after his initial loan period. Couple of examples off the top of my head: he was crucial to us beating Galatasary to qualify for the Europa at Ibrox, he scored a winner at home to Hibs in December of the 55 season. But he has always had games, or a stretch of games where he is way below par. Like the first half of 21/22 he was desperately poor at times. It's been clear since the summer we've been looking to move on from him, and that's fine. I don't think he's consistent enough. The problem comes when our new signing in his position doesn't look any better than him - which can also inflate people's opinion of what he can contribute. Yep, can't argue with that. Hagi is far too inconsistent and lacks the pace to be a top top player. Honestly, I'd have been okay with letting him leave for a decent fee, until I saw the likes of Lammers and Sima in action. It's early days I know but Hagi looks to be the better option imo. AGM_72 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxholm 2,280 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Beale is pretty well all in now and will live or die on his judgement on the players he has brought to the club and their ability to bring success. Although we definitely needed a clear out in the summer, I think he may have been unwise to make such wholesale changes rather than bring in fewer players and try to get a bit more (or hope to enhance the performance) of some of our better players (Hagi, Sakala, Colak - we all knew these players shortcomings but we also knew what they could give us). With bringing in so many new players at one time, I don’t think Beale has a clue at the moment how to fit them in and get the best out of them. He better find out quickly for his own sake (and ours). JCDBigBear, Paisley Blue Loyal and bluenoz 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Archer 1,123 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ibroxholm said: Beale is pretty well all in now and will live or die on his judgement on the players he has brought to the club and their ability to bring success. Although we definitely needed a clear out in the summer, I think he may have been unwise to make such wholesale changes rather than bring in fewer players and try to get a bit more (or hope to enhance the performance) of some of our better players (Hagi, Sakala, Colak - we all knew these players shortcomings but we also knew what they could give us). With bringing in so many new players at one time, I don’t think Beale has a clue at the moment how to fit them in and get the best out of them. He better find out quickly for his own sake (and ours). Think the players he has played a hard line with were the wrong ones.I don’t wear the pish he said about Sakala and it being best for his family.He shunted Colak out the door and now it looks like Hagi is next.Meanwhile Captain calamity and Borna ,Davies,Lundstrum never miss a game. Beale looks more out of depth than Pedro.He needs a Gerrard figure to make the Managerial decisions . He will have fucked us out everything by Christmas shaka 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaka 1,684 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Archer said: Think the players he has played a hard line with were the wrong ones.I don’t wear the pish he said about Sakala and it being best for his family.He shunted Colak out the door and now it looks like Hagi is next.Meanwhile Captain calamity and Borna ,Davies,Lundstrum never miss a game. Beale looks more out of depth than Pedro.He needs a Gerrard figure to make the Managerial decisions . He will have fucked us out everything by Christmas It's weird that he seems determined to drive out the creative, maverick types that could do the unpredictable which on the face of it is exactly what the team seems to be lacking. He's got rid of Sakala, let Lowry go out on loan and is now looking to get rid of Hagi. He's spoken about adding what Kent brought to the team but other than Cantwell and possibly Raskin if given the freedom to play I don't see a lot of creativity in the team. Ibroxholm 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TamCoopz 19,605 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Donated some funds towards that Hagi petition, feel like I’ve been conned AGM_72, SeparateEntityMyArse and JackAlex93 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Archer 1,123 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Being a Manager is about making key decisions at the right time.He should have kept him in the squad and give him a run of games and let him go in January if need be. Now right at an important game Beale has created a whole negative vortex distraction about Hagi and for sure it will affect the squad,Fuck me Davies has hardly played due to being injured and is now in the squad.Would have kept Hagi and put Matondo in.Not saying Hagi is a world beater but the timing and means has been truly poor .Suppossed to be a positive time before a huge game without these media whirlwind distractions. Very poor decision making also regarding Colak Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloUSAGers 1,248 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Colak has limitations but no one doubts he can finish, something that is sorely and chronically lacking in this squad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,182 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, The Archer said: Being a Manager is about making key decisions at the right time.He should have kept him in the squad and give him a run of games and let him go in January if need be. Now right at an important game Beale has created a whole negative vortex distraction about Hagi and for sure it will affect the squad,Fuck me Davies has hardly played due to being injured and is now in the squad.Would have kept Hagi and put Matondo in.Not saying Hagi is a world beater but the timing and means has been truly poor .Suppossed to be a positive time before a huge game without these media whirlwind distractions. Very poor decision making also regarding Colak A what? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,609 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, The Dude said: He isnt at optimal fitness level yet, fair nuff Lammers and dessers both look more unfit than any of them and they'll play week in week out The fitness issue is a load of shite Imo of course bluenoz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,610 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, bluenose244 said: More sensible on here generally. I cant see why it's the same posters generally with different names. There are more posters on FF right enough than on here and more topics but it never used to be that way here was at one time busier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SPWF 8,281 Posted August 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2023 54 minutes ago, The Archer said: Think the players he has played a hard line with were the wrong ones.I don’t wear the pish he said about Sakala and it being best for his family.He shunted Colak out the door and now it looks like Hagi is next.Meanwhile Captain calamity and Borna , Beale looks more out of depth than Pedro.He needs a Gerrard figure to make the Managerial decisions . He will have fucked us out everything by Christmas You’re a fucking idiot. SeparateEntityMyArse, MayboleLoyal_atb, JackAlex93 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,815 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, SPWF said: You’re a fucking idiot. You could have highlighted in bold his full post 😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffbear 4,096 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Better than Lammers . Simple as that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 3,731 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 This Hagi nonsense seems to be another stick to beat Beale with. JackAlex93, Polo, WWTC and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 3,731 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, The Archer said: Think the players he has played a hard line with were the wrong ones.I don’t wear the pish he said about Sakala and it being best for his family.He shunted Colak out the door and now it looks like Hagi is next.Meanwhile Captain calamity and Borna ,Davies,Lundstrum never miss a game. Beale looks more out of depth than Pedro.He needs a Gerrard figure to make the Managerial decisions . He will have fucked us out everything by Christmas You don’t buy that sakala will be getting a lot more money in Saudi? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,247 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Wont be overly disappointed to see him go, hoping we get good money for him and we can strengthen where required. JCDBigBear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlueSuedeSambas 53,930 Posted August 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, MayboleLoyal_atb said: This Hagi nonsense seems to be another stick to beat Beale with. 100%. Guys like Hagi, Sakala & Colak being hyped up now just so people can carry on with the pile on on Beale. MayboleLoyal_atb, SPWF, Inigo and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 74,199 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 57 minutes ago, The Archer said: Being a Manager is about making key decisions at the right time.He should have kept him in the squad and give him a run of games and let him go in January if need be. Now right at an important game Beale has created a whole negative vortex distraction about Hagi and for sure it will affect the squad,Fuck me Davies has hardly played due to being injured and is now in the squad.Would have kept Hagi and put Matondo in.Not saying Hagi is a world beater but the timing and means has been truly poor .Suppossed to be a positive time before a huge game without these media whirlwind distractions. Very poor decision making also regarding Colak Polo and King Jela 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post STEPPS BOY 74,199 Posted August 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2023 Honestly don’t get the love in for Hagi. He’s an ok player but not really more than that. Polo, King Jela, BlueAvenger and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,957 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: 100%. Guys like Hagi, Sakala & Colak being hyped up now just so people can carry on with the pile on on Beale. That's absolute nonsense. I have never been one of the posters on the anti-Beale bandwagon. Hagi's exclusion from the Euro squad is definitely worthy of debate, especially when he is dropped after a good performance and Matondo is promoted for two similar performances (rightfully so). Don't you see the irony in that? FF has a poll where 80% of fans are on Hagi's side. Are you telling me they are all wrong as well? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 minute ago, bluenoz said: That's absolute nonsense. I have never been one of the posters on the anti-Beale bandwagon. Hagi's exclusion from the Euro squad is definitely worthy of debate, especially when he is dropped after a good performance and Matondo is promoted for two similar performances (rightfully so). Don't you see the irony in that? FF has a poll where 80% of fans are on Hagi's side. Are you telling me they are all wrong as well? Probably. It's FF after all. JCDBigBear and WWTC 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 3,731 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, bluenoz said: That's absolute nonsense. I have never been one of the posters on the anti-Beale bandwagon. Hagi's exclusion from the Euro squad is definitely worthy of debate, especially when he is dropped after a good performance and Matondo is promoted for two similar performances (rightfully so). Don't you see the irony in that? FF has a poll where 80% of fans are on Hagi's side. Are you telling me they are all wrong as well? Hagi being in or out the squad does not make one bit of difference to our chances of qualification. JCDBigBear, STEPPS BOY and King Jela 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
folkestoneger 8,197 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, SPWF said: Since he’s been out injured Hagi seems to have turned into peak Messi in the eyes of some of our fans. He’s been bang average for us bar the odd performance. Get him to fuck. He is replaced by Matondo, a guy who has yet to reach the dizzy heights of bang average. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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