Smile 26,610 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, bluenoz said: That's absolute nonsense. I have never been one of the posters on the anti-Beale bandwagon. Hagi's exclusion from the Euro squad is definitely worthy of debate, especially when he is dropped after a good performance and Matondo is promoted for two similar performances (rightfully so). Don't you see the irony in that? FF has a poll where 80% of fans are on Hagi's side. Are you telling me they are all wrong as well? Quite the opposite in fact you have been a strong supporter of him. bluenoz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,188 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, folkestoneger said: He is replaced by Matondo, a guy who has yet to reach the dizzy heights of bang average. Matondo is only in there because he offers something we lack. We're not short of players like Hagi. bluenoz and OrangeRab 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,597 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Him and Kamara should already have been on the list of players out the door in the summer anyway. What’s happened since Saturday means like Kamara we won’t be getting what he’s really worth. BlueAvenger and plymouthranger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 18,857 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, bluenoz said: That's absolute nonsense. I have never been one of the posters on the anti-Beale bandwagon. Hagi's exclusion from the Euro squad is definitely worthy of debate, especially when he is dropped after a good performance and Matondo is promoted for two similar performances (rightfully so). Don't you see the irony in that? FF has a poll where 80% of fans are on Hagi's side. Are you telling me they are all wrong as well? FF is ran by a man that takes random photographs of German women. Essandoh and King Jela 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayro 3,028 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, The Archer said: Think the players he has played a hard line with were the wrong ones.I don’t wear the pish he said about Sakala and it being best for his family.He shunted Colak out the door and now it looks like Hagi is next.Meanwhile Captain calamity and Borna ,Davies,Lundstrum never miss a game. Beale looks more out of depth than Pedro.He needs a Gerrard figure to make the Managerial decisions . He will have fucked us out everything by Christmas Fucking hell mate, worse than Pedro…really? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 minute ago, G.E.C. said: FF is ran by a man that takes random photographs of German women. And writes weird homophobic fan fiction on fitba threads plymouthranger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Archer 1,132 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Just now, ayro said: Fucking hell mate, worse than Pedro…really? In terms of knowing what he is doing and the direction his squad are going yes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,288 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Just now, The Archer said: In terms of knowing what he is doing and the direction his squad are going yes Roy Hobbs 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Inigo 32,534 Posted August 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said: Hagi > Lammers. Beale’s a wank. Is it not a wee bit early to be using this kind of language about a Rangers manager? If it's ever appropriate. Jasper Blues, Smell the hotdog, rangersross and 8 others 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,082 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Inigo said: Is it not a wee bit early to be using this kind of language about a Rangers manager? If it's ever appropriate. Best to ignore these types of posters. Calling Rangers players and staff names to win arguments on the Internet. Tragic Jasper Blues and Inigo 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,956 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Archer said: In terms of knowing what he is doing and the direction his squad are going yes Caixinha got us knocked out of Europe in the first qualifying round by the fourth best team from Luxembourg, but yeah Beale is somehow worse Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddybear1975 2,030 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, The Archer said: In terms of knowing what he is doing and the direction his squad are going yes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,956 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 35 minutes ago, bluenoz said: That's absolute nonsense. I have never been one of the posters on the anti-Beale bandwagon. Hagi's exclusion from the Euro squad is definitely worthy of debate, especially when he is dropped after a good performance and Matondo is promoted for two similar performances (rightfully so). Don't you see the irony in that? FF has a poll where 80% of fans are on Hagi's side. Are you telling me they are all wrong as well? Wasn’t specifically talking about you with that statement, so I’m not sure what you are getting your knickers in a twist for We have Cantwell, Dowell & Lammers, who are all similar style of players to Hagi and give us plenty of options for that style of player within the squad. Matondo, on the other hand, gives us something completely different and adds another dynamic to the bench. There’s nothing “ironic” about it, it’s just the manager giving himself different options for a tie where the squad numbers are limited. I’m saying they could easily be wrong. Like I’ve said time and time again, I think Hagi is talented but he has got better in certain supporters eyes the longer he’s been out with injury. He has talent, but has always been so inconsistent that he can’t be trusted to complete games (average of 47 minutes per appearance somebody said the other day) and his impact from the bench has been hit and miss too. He was absolutely rotten for months before he got injured. Sea Bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,818 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, The Archer said: In terms of knowing what he is doing and the direction his squad are going yes Fucking hell 🤣 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayro 3,028 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, The Archer said: In terms of knowing what he is doing and the direction his squad are going yes Pedro was a disaster at home, away and Europe, played the same system against the filth in back to back embarrassing defeats so he didn’t know what he was doing and his squad was a joke that took significant time and money to undo the damage that was caused. Entitled to you opinion but Pedro being better than MB is a pretty wild take. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,969 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Just now, BlueSuedeSambas said: Wasn’t specifically talking about you with that statement, so I’m not sure what you are getting your knickers in a twist for We have Cantwell, Dowell & Lammers, who are all similar style of players to Hagi and give us plenty of options for that style of player within the squad. Matondo, on the other hand, gives us something completely different and adds another dynamic to the bench. There’s nothing “ironic” about it, it’s just the manager giving himself different options for a tie where the squad numbers are limited. I’m saying they could easily be wrong. Like I’ve said time and time again, I think Hagi is talented but he has got better in certain supporters eyes the longer he’s been out with injury. He has talent, but has always been so inconsistent that he can’t be trusted to complete games (average of 47 minutes per appearance somebody said the other day) and his impact from the bench has been hit and miss too. He was absolutely rotten for months before he got injured. I'm not being salty or angry, mate. Matondo deserves his opportunity, even if I still think he's not very good. Hagi has not been given a proper opportunity since his injury and is now behind Lammers, Dowell, and Lawrence soon in the pecking order. For what it is worth, I would sell him because I think he will attract teams and decent money. He is clearly not in Beale's plans. Rightfully or wrongly is debatable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 11,024 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, The Godfather said: Best to ignore these types of posters. Calling Rangers players and staff names to win arguments on the Internet. Tragic What’s tragic is reading that much into it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,611 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Only issue i have with the hagi situation is that he has never had a proper run of games in a settled position to try build match fitness and sharpness again We had fans defending the new players saying they need time to settle, need time to get match fit, match practise etc etc Yet hagi averaging 47mins an appearance for us doesn't grant him the same freedoms I mean look at how fucking rotten kent was from jan onwards, yet beale never thought to bin him and give someone like hagi a run of games to see if they could slot into a position And i refuse to buy the "he cant be performing well in training" line that will come out, because absolutely no chance players like lammers etc deserve to play on current form, even if they are flying in training Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,013 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Manager hasn't been brutal enough with players who should've been out the door a couple months ago. Hagi was one of them. Just make sure that deck is cleared come the transfer window closing and we improve in some key positions. BlueAvenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,956 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Only issue i have with the hagi situation is that he has never had a proper run of games in a settled position to try build match fitness and sharpness again We had fans defending the new players saying they need time to settle, need time to get match fit, match practise etc etc Yet hagi averaging 47mins an appearance for us doesn't grant him the same freedoms I mean look at how fucking rotten kent was from jan onwards, yet beale never thought to bin him and give someone like hagi a run of games to see if they could slot into a position And i refuse to buy the "he cant be performing well in training" line that will come out, because absolutely no chance players like lammers etc deserve to play on current form, even if they are flying in training Does he average 47 minutes an appearance for us because he’s not had a fair crack of the whip, over a period of years, or is it because he’s just actually fairly ineffectual? Loads of people seeming to just ignore than he would often tire in games and although he was capable of producing moments he never once dominated a game and was quite often a passenger. Cantwell does everything Hagi ever did for us, but he does it better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said: What’s tragic is reading that much into it. It's read for what it is. Everyone knows what wank means. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,247 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 58 minutes ago, bluenoz said: That's absolute nonsense. I have never been one of the posters on the anti-Beale bandwagon. Hagi's exclusion from the Euro squad is definitely worthy of debate, especially when he is dropped after a good performance and Matondo is promoted for two similar performances (rightfully so). Don't you see the irony in that? FF has a poll where 80% of fans are on Hagi's side. Are you telling me they are all wrong as well? Can you not understand why we would drop Hagi to include Matondo? Given the cover for Hagi’s position, and the lack of cover for Matondo’s? JCDBigBear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 11,024 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Inigo said: It's read for what it is. Everyone knows what wank means. Come on mate dry your eyes. How many times have you called a mate a wank for any one of a number of silly reasons? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,969 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Just now, WWTC said: Can you not understand why we would drop Hagi to include Matondo? Given the cover for Hagi’s position, and the lack of cover for Matondo’s? Of course, I can. I have no issues with Matondo being included. how many ch's are included? Five? Six? The Archer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, bluenoz said: Of course, I can. I have no issues with Matondo being included. how many ch's are included? Five? Six? Four. Goldson, Souttar, Davies, Balogun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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