"Serial Losers"

[The Ibrox Derry 8,904]

After every defeat or draw we get this title trotted out about certain members of our squad, mainly Goldson, Tav, Barasic etc etc.

Is it justified?

Isn't every game a must win for Rangers?

Yes, there has been some major fuck ups and poor results involving the above players over the last 5 years, but equally there has been some memorable victories aswell.

Are we now in a habit of crucifying certain players,when things don't go our way.

 

 

 

[cr3_bear 14,862]

6 minutes ago, The Ibrox Derry said:

After every defeat or draw we get this title trotted out about certain members of our squad, mainly Goldson, Tav, Barasic etc etc.

Is it justified?

Isn't every game a must win for Rangers?

Yes, there has been some major fuck ups and poor results involving the above players over the last 5 years, but equally there has been some memorable victories aswell.

Are we now in a habit of crucifying certain players,when things don't go our way.

 

 

 

Their medal return is why these labels come out 

domestically their trophy return has been pish . Until that changes questions are always going to be asked

[ElBufalo20 7,892]

It’s coming in to 2024 and our starting back 4 is Tav Goldson Balogun and Barisic.

It’s not a coincidence 

[.Williamson. 82,235]

Could you not have posted this in the mentality thread or even the thread with their names in it? Attention seeker

[graeme_4 34,530]

Yes, it’s justified. The core of this group, including our ‘leadership team’, have 2 trophies in 15 and continually shit the bed when it really matters. 

[JackAlex93 11,276]

1 hour ago, The Ibrox Derry said:

After every defeat or draw we get this title trotted out about certain members of our squad, mainly Goldson, Tav, Barasic etc etc.

Is it justified?

Isn't every game a must win for Rangers?

Yes, there has been some major fuck ups and poor results involving the above players over the last 5 years, but equally there has been some memorable victories aswell.

Are we now in a habit of crucifying certain players,when things don't go our way.

 

 

 

Completely justified.

[The Specky Forum Organiser 64,733]

They're gotten off lightly.

[Stunels 1,244]

I hate the term serial loser because sutton coined it for Tav (i think), but its somewhat true that they lack the killer mentality.  Goldson failing to make a block in the UEL final when any one of us wouldve given our right (and left) baw(s) to stop it always springs to mind.

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,727]

Until they start regularly winning the games that matter, ie Cup ties to win silverware, games when the scum have dropped points, games versus the scum, then they absolutely deserve to be tagged that.

And for those who have been here longest, by default most blame is attached to them.

[McEwan's Lager 30,524]

Before one of the LC games this season in one of the pre match press conferences a journo asked a question about completing a domestic medal set for some of our players as if that was some sort of achievement at Rangers.

Tav is in his 9th season at the club and he is yet to do achieve something that Maurice Ross, Neil Murray and Bob Malcolm have sitting in their sock drawers.

Callum McGregor is in his 10th season as a senior player and has 20 senior domestic medals to his name. Stevie May and Shaun Rooney have two domestic medals from one season!

The club and the fans have given certain players a very easy ride over the last few years. A bunch of players that only turned up when we were stuck in our houses watching games on TV in one competition. And then we stuck one in our Hall of Fame. We have become an absolute joke of a football club compared to what we once were.

 

 

 

[left winger 14,187]

16 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said:

Before one of the LC games this season in one of the pre match press conferences a journo asked a question about completing a domestic medal set for some of our players as if that was some sort of achievement at Rangers.

Tav is in his 9th season at the club and he is yet to do achieve something that Maurice Ross, Neil Murray and Bob Malcolm have sitting in their sock drawers.

Callum McGregor is in his 10th season as a senior player and has 20 senior domestic medals to his name. Stevie May and Shaun Rooney have two domestic medals from one season!

The club and the fans have given certain players a very easy ride over the last few years. A bunch of players that only turned up when we were stuck in our houses watching games on TV in one competition. And then we stuck one in our Hall of Fame. We have become an absolute joke of a football club compared to what we once were.

 

 

 

Yeah, it’s clearly Tav’s fault he isn’t playing alongside players the quality of Goram, Gough, Robertson, Ferguson, McCall, Miko, Steven, Durrant, McCoist and Hateley. I don’t think we’d have won any more trophies if we had Malcom, Ross and Murray in the squad. 

[ForeverAndEver 71,505]

16 minutes ago, left winger said:

Yeah, it’s clearly Tav’s fault he isn’t playing alongside players the quality of Goram, Gough, Robertson, Ferguson, McCall, Miko, Steven, Durrant, McCoist and Hateley. I don’t think we’d have won any more trophies if we had Malcom, Ross and Murray in the squad. 

How many players of that quality were in the 04/05 side when Ross and Malcolm won it?

[left winger 14,187]

5 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said:

How many players of that quality were in the 04/05 side when Ross and Malcolm won it?

Bring in a player the quality and attitude of Barry Ferguson in the transfer window and we pish this league.

[graeme_4 34,530]

5 minutes ago, left winger said:

Bring in a player the quality and attitude of Barry Ferguson in the transfer window and we pish this league.

Square baw Barry that so many moaned about as well  what you’d give to have a guy like that at CM again. 

[ForeverAndEver 71,505]

12 minutes ago, left winger said:

Bring in a player the quality and attitude of Barry Ferguson in the transfer window and we pish this league.

You’d like to think so.

[cr3_bear 14,862]

36 minutes ago, left winger said:

Yeah, it’s clearly Tav’s fault he isn’t playing alongside players the quality of Goram, Gough, Robertson, Ferguson, McCall, Miko, Steven, Durrant, McCoist and Hateley. I don’t think we’d have won any more trophies if we had Malcom, Ross and Murray in the squad. 

I don’t agree with the comparing against arguably our pinaccle as a club in the 90s and using it as an excuse to justify our piss poor domestic trophy return as of late . Celtic aren’t operating at the same calibre of player they were twenty years ago either. They have just been allowed to hover up most trophies before them over the last 8 years because of our piss poor mentality in that time . There is no excuses for us not landing a couple of more league cups and Scottish cups from Gerrard’s arrival onwards. 

[BlueSuedeSambas 53,790]

1 minute ago, cr3_bear said:

I don’t agree with the comparing against arguably our pinaccle as a club in the 90s and using it as an excuse to justify our piss poor domestic trophy return as of late . Celtic aren’t operating at the same calibre of player they were twenty years ago either. They have just been allowed to hover up most trophies before them over the last 8 years because of our piss poor mentality in that time . There is no excuses for us not landing a couple of more league cups and Scottish cups from Gerrard’s arrival onwards. 

We got handed a potential treble on a plate in 20-21 and we blew it.

The league campaign was almost flawless but to also get knocked out of two cups in the same season after celtic had already been knocked out of them sums up the weak, shitebag mentality that has existed at the club for too long.

[left winger 14,187]

11 minutes ago, graeme_4 said:

Square baw Barry that so many moaned about as well  what you’d give to have a guy like that at CM again. 

Was a millisecond from jumping in when I saw your first sentence 😂

[left winger 14,187]

4 minutes ago, cr3_bear said:

I don’t agree with the comparing against arguably our pinaccle as a club in the 90s and using it as an excuse to justify our piss poor domestic trophy return as of late . Celtic aren’t operating at the same calibre of player they were twenty years ago either. They have just been allowed to hover up most trophies before them over the last 8 years because of our piss poor mentality in that time . There is no excuses for us not landing a couple of more league cups and Scottish cups from Gerrard’s arrival onwards. 

No, I’m using to highlight the difference in quality of player Tav, for example, plays alongside and how that has affected his trophy count. I don’t think a back four of Tav, Gough, Brown and Robertson would have been lacking in trophies. 

[McEwan's Lager 30,524]

37 minutes ago, left winger said:

Yeah, it’s clearly Tav’s fault he isn’t playing alongside players the quality of Goram, Gough, Robertson, Ferguson, McCall, Miko, Steven, Durrant, McCoist and Hateley. I don’t think we’d have won any more trophies if we had Malcom, Ross and Murray in the squad. 

Aye cause Stevie May and Shaun Rooney had prime Goram, Gough and Hateley along side them too.

You just keep making excuses. It’s an extremely poor medal return for a Rangers player of 9 seasons.

[Bad Robot 21,151]

No one can argue against the medal return but we have been hamstrung of real quality since been put down the leagues but I’m still of the mind that we can win this LC and im not writing us off in the league just yet. Maybe these players can deliver this and go one better but the reality facing us is we could end up with fk all and these players getting hounded out and labelled serial failures for decades. 

[cr3_bear 14,862]

14 minutes ago, left winger said:

No, I’m using to highlight the difference in quality of player Tav, for example, plays alongside and how that has affected his trophy count. I don’t think a back four of Tav, Gough, Brown and Robertson would have been lacking in trophies. 

But has the quality Tav is surrounded by since 2018 and Gerrards arrival really been so bad compared to Celtic that it justifies their trophy return compared to ours and our overall dreadful Hampden record in the same time ? I don’t think it has 

[left winger 14,187]

20 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said:

Aye cause Stevie May and Shaun Rooney had prime Goram, Gough and Hateley along side them too.

You just keep making excuses. It’s an extremely poor medal return for a Rangers player of 9 seasons.

One fluke season for St Johnstone. Let’s not kid ourselves on.

Call it making excuses if you want, but having a a relatively low quality of team mates can only have a detrimental effect. 

[cr3_bear 14,862]

7 minutes ago, left winger said:

One fluke season for St Johnstone. Let’s not kid ourselves on.

Call it making excuses if you want, but having a a relatively low quality of team mates can only have a detrimental effect. 

But I don’t think it has been that much lower in quality than our main opposition since 2018. That’s the main point I am trying to make . We have outperformed them in Europe in just about every season in the same timescale so why have we failed to match them on the domestic front ? Why are we the ones who always seem to be playing catch up in the league  ?

[rangersross 6,530]

I think it’s the context of the losses as much as anything else. When we were presented with a chance to narrow the gap this weekend, I’m sure a part of all of us was thinking ‘we’ll blow this’. That’s been the case with successive managers for years now - the obvious commonality being several senior players and, until recently, figures behind the scenes. It’s a stark contrast to our identity before 2012/13. When I was growing up watching teams under McLeish and Smith, I’d always have backed us to be the last team to blink when the pressure was on.