It needs to stop

[Tomatasauce 1,253]

I doubt we’ll ever get rid of bigotry in Scotland and deep down a part of me dosent want to lose it, I’d rather it went back to the days when both sides could take it and people weren’t so obsessively offended these days but...the singing isn’t what this post is about, its more the incidents that seem to be creeping into Scotland as a whole recently not just a Rangers problem and Steven Gerrard is bang on here and It’s his honest opinion not just some shite he’s been told to say to make the club look good:

Steven Gerrard admitted he'll struggle to attract top players to Rangers if yobs continue to shame the Scottish game.

The Ibrox boss confessed he is worried about the image of football north of the border following a spate of unsavoury off-field incidents.

Gerrard takes his Light Blues side to Easter Road tonight where celtic winger Scott Sinclair had a Buckfast bottle launched at him by a Hibs fan in the first of three ugly Scottish Cup ties.

Just 24 hours later some travelling Rangers supporters ripped up seats and hurled them at home fans, who unfurled an offensive banner aimed at Alfredo Morelos, during their clash with Aberdeen.

And the following night Gary Caldwell was pelted with coins as he stood in the Partick Thistle dug-out during the Jags quarter final tie against Hearts.

Gerrard insists it’s a societal problem rather than just football and that it isn’t exclusive to Scotland but he is concerned about the impact of the Scottish Premiership’s image.

The 38-year-old signed big-name England striker Jermain Defoe in January and believes it will be harder to recruit star players unless there is a clampdown on the morons.

Gerrard said: “There’s a load of positive things to say about the support in Scotland but if these incidents continue and increase you could have a problem attracting top players to come here.

Players want to come to Scotland to play in big games. The crowds in general here are superb. The Scottish fans are excellent in the main but that could be a factor in their decision making.

“We all have a responsibility - managers, staff, players, fans, media - to try and create a positive image of the game.

And I don’t just mean for everyone domestically because these games go out worldwide and clips of these instances from the fans, whether it be chants or bottles or coins thrown, it gets shown all over the world.

“It certainly dents the reputation of the game in Scotland we all have a responsibility to protect that and try and improve the behaviour of the supporters.

The most important thing is the safety of the players and I don’t want to be sitting talking about someone getting badly hurt or injured and if it continues that could be the case.

“When players see incidents like this, it’s only normal that when they go near the fans to take a throw-in or a corner, it’s going to enter their minds.

A coin getting thrown or a bottle or an object could cause injuries that could last a lifetime. The police in Scotland and the authorities are doing everything they can.

“The game in general is in a decent place. These are isolated incidents in certain games in recent weeks that paints a picture of a big, giant problem.

“I don’t think that’s the case. I’ve got trust in the authorities to do everything they possibly can to make sure that these incidents don’t happen at all.

In the main, the majority behave fantastically well and they come and support the team but if you see any incidents or something about to brew or start, then have a word or report it to a steward because that could be the difference between a player being hurt or a club receiving a big fine that would be an injustice.”

Asked if it would improve things, he said: “It’s a good question but difficult to answer because I’m employed by the club and more often than not it’s not the club’s fault.

“It’s the fault of individuals – or the minority, if they’re in a group – so maybe it’s the individuals and the groups that deserve the punishment and not necessarily the clubs.

I don’t totally agree with that rule. Sometimes it’s harsh on the clubs to receive a big fine because the clubs do everything they can – and I know how hard this club works behind the scenes with the supporters and police to eradicate that type of behaviour.”

Some Gers fans ignored a warning from the club not to step out of line at Pittodrie as the Ibrox outfit were hit with a £3000 bill for damaged seats.

Gerrard said: “It’s not great behaviour or something these people should be proud of and I don’t like talking about it. It’s disappointing.

“I don’t think it’s the first time that’s happened. This happens with different sets of supporters when they go to opposition grounds, whether it’s small incidents or large incidents, so it’s very difficult to stop because of rivalries.

It is not perfect down south either. My experiences of being a player down south, there were many press conferences where you were talking about coins being thrown or fans running onto the pitch or damage at certain stadiums.

“It is a worldwide society problem, not just domestic. If you went to a game, Fenerbahce against Galatasaray for example in Turkey, you would see incidents. That is disappointing.”

 

my personal opinion is if you want to be a fanny an throw bottles n coins or whatever, do it outside the stadium away from the club and don’t drag the reputation of the club down to gutter level.

[Davy Vandenbroucke 26,192]

@ForeverAndEver once threw a bottle at a child knocked him out then stood over him and urinated on his palms and started laughing and saying they were the yellow hands of Castlemilk

Utterly horrific

[ForeverAndEver 71,566]

4 minutes ago, Bronzy said:

@ForeverAndEver once threw a bottle at a child knocked him out then stood over him and urinated on his palms and started laughing and saying they were the yellow hands of Castlemilk

Utterly horrific

 

 

[ForeverAndEver 71,566]

I agree, imagine actually missing. If you do it,actually hit a target

[Sket 13,610]

Fuck the fenians and fuck the op

[Tomatasauce 1,253]

4 minutes ago, Sket said:

Fuck the fenians and fuck the op

Gay boy! I’d rather fuck their burds an wives

[Tiger Shaw 30,535]

Worse things go on in other countrys, in Scotland every little incident gets blown out of proportion, unless its the tarriers then it’s down played. 

Place is full of drama queens and sweetie wife’s. If a player is going to come here then a few coins thrown and the odd bottle or a naughty song won’t put them off.

The standard of football and lack of money is what will turn ‘star players’ away.

[Tomatasauce 1,253]

For the benefit of doubt I fucking love the bigotry, an they’ll never take it away from me, I don’t think It will they’ll ever be able to stop it in Scotland at football matches.  

hypothetically if somehow they managed to find a way to punish the club and we all had to stop it inside ibrox fullstop it wouldn’t stop me being a Rangers fan and it wouldn’t stop me being a bigoted bastard immediately before and after games, 

skocking you can’t just be a bigot these days without the risk of a sentence at hmp, country’s ruined! Lol

[Tomatasauce 1,253]

21 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said:

Worse things go on in other countrys, in Scotland every little incident get blown out of proportion, unless its the tarriers then it’s down played. 

Place is full of drama queens and sweetie wife’s. If a player is going to come here then a few coins thrown and the odd bottle or a naughty song won’t put them off.

The standard of football and lack of money is what will turn ‘star players’ away.

True mate, but for someone like Morelos for example to say he dosent go out in Scotland due to abuse and fear of attacks etc from they tarrier cunts it does make ye think, that’s not living yer life to the full, no wonder he wants away. players and managers should be able to take the abuse they get, but physical attacks is goin too far imo and it’s creeping in again almost on a weekly basis in different games

Nobody to my mind since hugh Dallas has actually been hurt with an object, although Lennon had an Oscar winning performance with the coin incident at hibs recently, but the first blood drawn from a player or ref and somebody will get at least a year shoved up their arse for it, crazy risk for something so stupid imo

[BLUEDIGNITY 33,647]

[SPWF 8,256]

Organised hooliganism is still rife all over Europe. Near enough every time an English team plays in Europe a fan gets seriously hurt. It’s essentially brushed under the carpet. A few songs get sung in Scotland and we’re threatened with ground closures and worse. Funny old game. 

Obviously bottle and coin throwing is scumbag behaviour and has to stop. 

[ibrox1995 0]

As much as the bigotry is what makes our rivalry so famous the bottle/coin throwers can get tae.

I just find it such a shame that 99% of our fans are class and it's just that minority that end up putting a bad name against our club and that's what gets noted by Scottish media.

[Sweetheart 8,458]

I agree, it needs to stop,  I blame it on institutional failure of the SPFL who have bought the competition into disrepute, by not protecting players and managers in their competition. Maybe the SFA should have an enquiry into the SPFL's failings.

[ZZed 4,510]

Scottish cup final 2016 Hibs fans invade the pitch on mass, come over to Rangers fans on mass and assault Rangers players, what is the punishment for this? This is why people think it is ok to throw coins and bottles, no or minimal punishment.

[1690tamRFC 5,001]

1 hour ago, ZZed said:

Scottish cup final 2016 Hibs fans invade the pitch on mass, come over to Rangers fans on mass and assault Rangers players, what is the punishment for this? This is why people think it is ok to throw coins and bottles, no or minimal punishment.

I agree mate, I honestly believe that was the incident that escalated it. 

[pcbear 10,923]

6 hours ago, Tiger Shaw said:

Worse things go on in other countrys, in Scotland every little incident gets blown out of proportion, unless its the tarriers then it’s down played. 

Place is full of drama queens and sweetie wife’s. If a player is going to come here then a few coins thrown and the odd bottle or a naughty song won’t put them off.

The standard of football and lack of money is what will turn ‘star players’ away.

Spot on, it's life in general that is full of apologists, I am in no way radical but when you see/hear the "problem" and the reaction to it I think ffs grow a set, in the big picture it = fuck all.

There was a lady on LBC yesterday having a meltdown because Amber Rudd called Diane Abbott coloured, I thought she had attempted to murder her going by the rants of the presenter, it was mental and it is going to get worse.

[KBOO72 4,375]

I'm not reading all of that. 

[chris182 6,310]

Ripping out seats and throwing them is absolutely pathetic IMO. 

Morons

[Ger_onimo 20,488]

6 hours ago, Tiger Shaw said:

Worse things go on in other countrys, in Scotland every little incident gets blown out of proportion, unless its the tarriers then it’s down played. 

Place is full of drama queens and sweetie wife’s. If a player is going to come here then a few coins thrown and the odd bottle or a naughty song won’t put them off.

The standard of football and lack of money is what will turn ‘star players’ away.

😂

[pollok-bear 7,537]

FTP

[gj923 1,457]

3 hours ago, Sweetheart said:

I agree, it needs to stop,  I blame it on institutional failure of the SPFL who have bought the competition into disrepute, by not protecting players and managers in their competition. Maybe the SFA should have an enquiry into the SPFL's failings.

It’s not the SPFL failure and I would not trust the SFA to do bugger all. At the weekend when you had the bottle thrown at Sinclair you had a shower of fat police and stewards watching the game. Bottle lands and rather than some copper picking it up it’s the referee handing it to some useless steward. With the Morelos banner where any stewards or police in there to confiscate it? No where they fuck.

[Brackley 1,401]

3 minutes ago, gj923 said:

It’s not the SPFL failure and I would not trust the SFA to do bugger all. At the weekend when you had the bottle thrown at Sinclair you had a shower of fat police and stewards watching the game. Bottle lands and rather than some copper picking it up it’s the referee handing it to some useless steward. With the Morelos banner where any stewards or police in there to confiscate it? No where they fuck.

That's the big difference these days.

In the old days of packed terracings it was not an uncommon sight to see the cops wade into the crowd to try and grab a culprit or stop a fight. Nowadays policing seems to be stand back and watch with camera in hand and then with the aid of CCTV chap some poor sods door at 6am on the Monday morning. 

[trueblue 64 613]

If anything stops good foreign players coming here it wont be a few naughty songs or coins being thrown it will be the treatment the best player in the league has received for daring to be foreign and head and shoulders better than everyone else.

[Bad Robot 21,259]

9 minutes ago, Brackley said:

That's the big difference these days.

In the old days of packed terracings it was not an uncommon sight to see the cops wade into the crowd to try and grab a culprit or stop a fight. Nowadays policing seems to be stand back and watch with camera in hand and then with the aid of CCTV chap some poor sods door at 6am on the Monday morning. 

Cowardaly policing also scared for personal injuries and claims going in and made up assault charges.

[pollok-bear 7,537]

What needs to stop is the one way traffic this goes. They bastards can sing what the fuck they want and do what the fuck they want but we get slaughtered for everything.

from the media to the papers, government and even our own club are slating us.

but the now taigs on the other hand