kelvd1873 7,406 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Contracts…. What is happening with this? For me both players have been below par so far this season, could the fact that they have not signed a new contract be playing on their minds? It would be great to get them both signed ASAP and then hopefully both would kick on from there. thoughts? GA1972 and Community Note FC 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guest Posted September 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2021 I'd have thought they'd have signed up after the transfer window closed so it's surprising / disappointing they haven't. kelvd1873, Bluekev, plymouthranger and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim1690 4,534 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 None of us are privy to what's going on behind the scenes but surely we must have been trying to move them on in the window when it was obvious that they weren't going to sign extensions to their existing contracts, more so Goldson as Kamara's contract doesn't run out until 2024 IIRC, having said that if no one has come even close to our evaluations then what option does the club have? Right now Goldson has us over a barrel with our present CB situation and I imagine that he'll run down his present contract and hope his agent will get him his big payday move back down south, it's a risky strategy but he holds all the cards ATM, Kamara's situation is slightly different as we will still have the opportunity to move him on either in January or next summer. Bearsden bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftpegcoopz11 4,858 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Personally I think they're waiting to see where we are in the league come New year. If we look like we're winning it they will stay (ECL group stages) Boosts their value. Still think it's shite they've not committed irrespective 👎 plymouthranger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvd1873 7,406 Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 54 minutes ago, slimjim1690 said: None of us are privy to what's going on behind the scenes but surely we must have been trying to move them on in the window when it was obvious that they weren't going to sign extensions to their existing contracts, more so Goldson as Kamara's contract doesn't run out until 2024 IIRC, having said that if no one has come even close to our evaluations then what option does the club have? Right now Goldson has us over a barrel with our present CB situation and I imagine that he'll run down his present contract and hope his agent will get him his big payday move back down south, it's a risky strategy but he holds all the cards ATM, Kamara's situation is slightly different as we will still have the opportunity to move him on either in January or next summer. I wasn’t aware kamara was contracted until then, I assumed he was the same as Goldson as I know Gerrard was talking about kamaras extension offer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim1690 4,534 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, kelvd1873 said: I wasn’t aware kamara was contracted until then, I assumed he was the same as Goldson as I know Gerrard was talking about kamaras extension offer. Just checked, my mistake his contract expires 2023, I could have sworn he was contracted till 2024, so I guess it's the same scenario as Goldson. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hadron Collider 31,401 Posted September 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, slimjim1690 said: None of us are privy to what's going on behind the scenes but surely we must have been trying to move them on in the window when it was obvious that they weren't going to sign extensions to their existing contracts, more so Goldson as Kamara's contract doesn't run out until 2024 IIRC, having said that if no one has come even close to our evaluations then what option does the club have? Right now Goldson has us over a barrel with our present CB situation and I imagine that he'll run down his present contract and hope his agent will get him his big payday move back down south, it's a risky strategy but he holds all the cards ATM, Kamara's situation is slightly different as we will still have the opportunity to move him on either in January or next summer. Fuck Goldson if he hasn’t signed by January. It’s a poker game. He’s not been that impressive so far this season. He should be thanking us for the career he has now. alibali59, Gascoigne8, baxters11 and 12 others 15 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,734 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 I think Goldson will run his contract out. The management team will be lining up a replacement no doubt. Hadron Collider, esquire8, plymouthranger and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim1690 4,534 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said: Fuck Goldson if he hasn’t signed by January. It’s a poker game. He’s not been that impressive so far this season. He should be thanking us for the career he has now. I understand what you say mate but TBH I'm not going to blame him or Kamara, they are professionals and have to look after their own interests as it's a short career, if you or I had been offered 3-4 times our wages elsewhere then I know for certain I would take it without thinking, I do think it's a bit shitty not helping the club out by extending their contracts but that's the way it is with agents whispering in their ears and there's nothing we can do about it. Hadron Collider and glasgow argyle 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 31,401 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, slimjim1690 said: I understand what you say mate but TBH I'm not going to blame him or Kamara, they are professionals and have to look after their own interests as it's a short career, if you or I had been offered 3-4 times our wages elsewhere then I know for certain I would take it without thinking, I do think it's a bit shitty not helping the club out by extending their contracts but that's the way it is with agents whispering in their ears and there's nothing we can do about it. Kamara is signed until 2023 mate. I’m fine with him, but if he hasn’t signed it means he’s wanting to go. This coming January will be interesting for the club. Hope he signs a new contract and we cash in on him. Goldson situation is not healthy for us. We need to make a real thrust to win the league this season and then we’re in the drivers seat. Wherever Goldson goes he will never play Champions League. Bit stupid on his thinking. kelvd1873 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjim1690 4,534 Posted September 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said: Kamara is signed until 2023 mate. I’m fine with him, but if he hasn’t signed it means he’s wanting to go. This coming January will be interesting for the club. Hope he signs a new contract and we cash in on him. Goldson situation is not healthy for us. We need to make a real thrust to win the league this season and then we’re in the drivers seat. Wherever Goldson goes he will never play Champions League. Bit stupid on his thinking. I honestly don't think champions league will be his priority, 6 games in the CL [unlikely to be any more]versus a 3yr contract at possibly treble his wages at his age would be very unlikely for him to turn down. glasgow argyle, NorthernLights, Hadron Collider and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 31,401 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, slimjim1690 said: I honestly don't think champions league will be his priority, 6 games in the CL [unlikely to be any more]versus a 3yr contract at possibly treble his wages at his age would be very unlikely for him to turn down. Aye mate, he will make more money for sure even going down to the Championship in England. If that’s his thinking then fuck him. He’s looking stale anyway. Get what we can for him. slimjim1690, HG5, alibali59 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 83,879 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 If we get no money for Goldson because he lets his contract run out I’ll not be a happy boy HG5 and Jasper Blues 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondraker 417 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Goldson is a good defender but he's not great, guilty as any of making mistakes and shit defending but has never been dropped so makes him look better than he actually is. As long as we are doing a proper job in identifying a replacement he can go if he likes. Kamara looks like he needs to go too. Harder to replace but looks like he wants away but at 50k he's repaid that a million times over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBearButt 3,748 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Mondraker said: Goldson is a good defender but he's not great, guilty as any of making mistakes and shit defending but has never been dropped so makes him look better than he actually is. As long as we are doing a proper job in identifying a replacement he can go if he likes. Kamara looks like he needs to go too. Harder to replace but looks like he wants away but at 50k he's repaid that a million times over. Its not about repaying his transfer fee its about getting us on a sustainable business model which includes not losing a player valued at over 10m for nothing. This should have been the priority over the summer and the fact its not sorted is not great for us. I said at the time we should have released davis/slashed his wage and used that money to offer kamara a vastly increased wage to at the very least get him to sign a contract to allow us to cash in on him. They Gnu 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Gnu 11,553 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, BigBearButt said: Its not about repaying his transfer fee its about getting us on a sustainable business model which includes not losing a player valued at over 10m for nothing. This should have been the priority over the summer and the fact its not sorted is not great for us. I said at the time we should have released davis/slashed his wage and used that money to offer kamara a vastly increased wage to at the very least get him to sign a contract to allow us to cash in on him. Bring in, improve, sell on at a profit. BigBearButt 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivybank 4,637 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 From their point of view, you can understand it ,their not Scottish or fans of the club they both won the league last year, play in a poor league,what else can they realistically achieve? Winning the league again of course and straight into the group stages of the champions league,but we’re never going to win it are we. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayro 3,157 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Would be happy to be proven wrong but can’t see either signing a new deal. Goldson will be looking for a last pay day with lower end PL or Championship and will get a decent sign on fee if he is a free. Kamara will do similar to how we got him from Dundee, he will get the CL game time and then head at the end of the that season unless we get a nominal fee. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,942 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Not really bothered about Goldson tbh, going into the CL will be worth treble or quadruple his value to being sold in the past summer. Kamara however is a £20m player and getting into the CL without him signing a new contract which means the CL makes up the loss of those two players instead of getting us on an even keel financially with player sales taking us into profit is concerning Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lord Lockin 3,941 Posted September 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Mondraker said: Goldson is a good defender but he's not great, guilty as any of making mistakes and shit defending but has never been dropped so makes him look better than he actually is. As long as we are doing a proper job in identifying a replacement he can go if he likes. Kamara looks like he needs to go too. Harder to replace but looks like he wants away but at 50k he's repaid that a million times over. Goldson's nowhere near as good a defender than he thinks he is and for some reason Gerrard can't see by him Zappa6995, ayrshireranger, Mondraker and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco 1,622 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Accepted that Goldson's off. Worried about the core of our defence keeping himself safe ahead of January, rather than putting his body on the line for the team. At least we have a bit of time with Kamara to either secure an extension or get a decent deal for the club. Win the league this season and then we can invest heavily next summer with CL money secured. That point might be the time to cash in on Kamara if he still hasn't signed and we get a respectable deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 23,262 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Goldson has served us well but I’d prefer a leader in that position, Gough, Butcher, Amo, Weir were all leaders as well as good centre backs. If we’re assuming that Goldson is running down his contract to get a big signing on fee, then the club should already have a shortlist or even have made tenuous contact? The team needs someone who can grab them by the scruff of the neck and Gerrard, of all people, should appreciate the difference a real leader on the pitch can make. glasgow argyle and Mondraker 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valance1690 3,947 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Goldsons never been as good as he thinks he is, done a good job for us but if he's not accepting the contract then move him on, take time for someone to settle but it's not a huge loss Kamara, whilst being a bigger loss, has been one of our worst players so far this season. A guy who looks like he clearly doesn't want to be here & who we should get a decent fee for, time to cash in was after the Euro's though. Hopefully we can sell both for decent fees if they aren't signing however as a club we shouldn't be letting 2 players who's careers were going nowhere before joining us hold us over a barrel. alibali59 and HG5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,456 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 We can't be signing desirable players for millions, them performing well, then leaving for nothing. At some point in the future we need to start selling players for a profit. We're almost the only club going that seem to be living in the past thinking we can't do it. It's going to have to happen. Buy low, sell high. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 5,650 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Valance1690 said: Goldsons never been as good as he thinks he is, done a good job for us but if he's not accepting the contract then move him on, take time for someone to settle but it's not a huge loss Kamara, whilst being a bigger loss, has been one of our worst players so far this season. A guy who looks like he clearly doesn't want to be here & who we should get a decent fee for, time to cash in was after the Euro's though. Hopefully we can sell both for decent fees if they aren't signing however as a club we shouldn't be letting 2 players who's careers were going nowhere before joining us hold us over a barrel. Bit of an elephant in the room but I agree Kamara has been on of the worst. HG5 and Valance1690 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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