Roy Makaay - "keep it simple, tricks are for the circus"

[jamess 3,441]

2 minutes ago, DBBTB said:

People do realise that the side to side passing is us trying to drag teams playing in a low block across the pitch and out of shape so we can create openings yeah? We don’t just do it for the sake of doing it.

But generally it is not working. We look dangerous in open play, but when they file back into defending the box we struggle. Hopefully a fresh look at us and the opposition changes this.

[DiamondDan 2,386]

6 minutes ago, DBBTB said:

People do realise that the side to side passing is us trying to drag teams playing in a low block across the pitch and out of shape so we can create openings yeah? We don’t just do it for the sake of doing it.

But we do it so slowly and predictable that it doesn't work.

 

[BlueSuedeSambas 54,069]

1 minute ago, jamess said:

But generally it is not working. We look dangerous in open play, but when they file back into defending the box we struggle. Hopefully a fresh look at us and the opposition changes this.

We went the only team who struggled against teams who drop back into low blocks though. If we don’t score early and it becomes edgy it becomes a war of attrition. We definitely need to move the ball quicker at times though. 

[SuperLeeMcCulloch 2,334]

6 minutes ago, DBBTB said:

People do realise that the side to side passing is us trying to drag teams playing in a low block across the pitch and out of shape so we can create openings yeah? We don’t just do it for the sake of doing it.

If we actually took advantage of the spaces created, too often now we pass it side to side at a snail's pace meaning the opposition just shuffle across until we get Goldson to launch a diagonal, rinse & repeat. 

[DiamondDan 2,386]

What annoys me is that the ball ALWAYS goes out wide.

The full backs when they go ahead of the wide midfielder ALWAYS go on the outside and then it's a cross in to the box for big defenders to deal with comfortably.

The full backs NEVER go inside the channel to receive a through ball from the midfielder in the 18 yard box.

Even if they need to go wide every time, at least try an mix that up and try and hit the bye line occasionally and cut it back or drive it across the 6 yard box.

[NeoGeo7 10,567]

7 minutes ago, SuperLeeMcCulloch said:

If we actually took advantage of the spaces created, too often now we pass it side to side at a snail's pace meaning the opposition just shuffle across until we get Goldson to launch a diagonal, rinse & repeat. 

That’s the key. Last year you see how quickly we zipped the ball about and teams weren’t getting near us, this year it’s so laboured and slow that, as you say, it gives the opposition time to move into place collectively so the block just shifts to the side a bit.

[plumbGER 24,518]

28 minutes ago, Rowley Birkin said:

lol on FF theres already a 5 page debate about who he said it too and if he was right to say it

Rangers fans forum discusses Rangers training video!

What an unreal revelation.

[plumbGER 24,518]

25 minutes ago, DBBTB said:

People do realise that the side to side passing is us trying to drag teams playing in a low block across the pitch and out of shape so we can create openings yeah? We don’t just do it for the sake of doing it.

Stop talking football sense please.

[Rowley Birkin 8,967]

16 minutes ago, plumbGER said:

Rangers fans forum discusses Rangers training video!

What an unreal revelation.

try reading it mate even some posters are saying its over the top

[DiamondDan 2,386]

18 minutes ago, plumbGER said:

Stop talking football sense please.

It's working well...

[WWTC 2,247]

44 minutes ago, DBBTB said:

People do realise that the side to side passing is us trying to drag teams playing in a low block across the pitch and out of shape so we can create openings yeah? We don’t just do it for the sake of doing it.

I dont think some realise that our “wide players” come inside for a reason; mainly that we have two wingbacks. Suppose Tavernier and Barasic’s assist rate is pretty poor…..

[bluenoz 31,050]

We pass then stand still and wait to get it back especially amongst the back 4 and Davis.

If you look at Gilmour for example, he passes and then immediately moves into space. He has obviously been taught that at a high level from coaches and teammates like Kante and Jorginho.

Off the ball movement will break any low block.

[KeyserSoze 14,621]

48 minutes ago, DBBTB said:

People do realise that the side to side passing is us trying to drag teams playing in a low block across the pitch and out of shape so we can create openings yeah? We don’t just do it for the sake of  it

……….. and a striker on the pitch ?

 

[Colin Traive 22,928]

45 minutes ago, DiamondDan said:

What annoys me is that the ball ALWAYS goes out wide.

The full backs when they go ahead of the wide midfielder ALWAYS go on the outside and then it's a cross in to the box for bid defenders to deal with comfortably.

The full backs NEVER go inside the channel to receive a through ball from the midfielder in the 18 yard box.

Even if they need to go wide everything, at least try an mix that up and try and hit the bye line occasionally and cut it back or drive it across the 6 yard box.

Considering that most of this predictable side to side shuffling is, in theory, to create space, all that ever comes of it are crosses lapped up by Lurch and Hen Broon at centre back.

Why do so few  of our players run to the front post?

I can only remember Aribo and Roofe scoring although there might well be others. It’s almost impossible to defend and even a rebound or save might create another chance.

More than 70% possession did us no good on Sunday and we need both pace and variety in our attacks.

[SPWF 8,308]

18 minutes ago, bluenoz said:

We pass then stand still and wait to get it back especially amongst the back 4 and Davis.

If you look at Gilmour for example, he passes and then immediately moves into space. He has obviously been taught that at a high level from coaches and teammates like Kante and Jorginho.

Off the ball movement will break any low block.

We also never, well almost never, pass forward though the lines in midfield. It either gets out to Tav or Borna at full back, who love it forward, get shut off by the low block, then they shuffle it back to the CM or lump it into the box. Teams have absolutely sussed out how to play against us. 

[HG5 11,209]

1 hour ago, DBBTB said:

People do realise that the side to side passing is us trying to drag teams playing in a low block across the pitch and out of shape so we can create openings yeah? We don’t just do it for the sake of doing it.

Executed with the correct ball speed & tempo, you’re absolutely right.

In the main, and especially games like Sunday, it’s simply players passing the buck.

[tom1780 1,221]

Fuck all wrong with what he said 

maybe his attempt at also a bit of humour 

 

[bluenoz 31,050]

16 minutes ago, SPWF said:

We also never, well almost never, pass forward though the lines in midfield. It either gets out to Tav or Borna at full back, who love it forward, get shut off by the low block, then they shuffle it back to the CM or lump it into the box. Teams have absolutely sussed out how to play against us. 

Or, when you pass in triangles it looks nice but no one is moving. 

Take Patterson's assist for Scotland... he makes a forward pass to McGinn then bursts forward into space, gets it back and crosses to Adams.

Pass then move. We don't do enough of that. Like you said, it ends up sideways or backwards to start again because there is no direct movement.

[falkirkNS 6,298]

2 hours ago, DBBTB said:

People do realise that the side to side passing is us trying to drag teams playing in a low block across the pitch and out of shape so we can create openings yeah? We don’t just do it for the sake of doing it.

Allright sneaky G, we get the picture

[Hadron Collider 31,097]

2 hours ago, DBBTB said:

People do realise that the side to side passing is us trying to drag teams playing in a low block across the pitch and out of shape so we can create openings yeah? We don’t just do it for the sake of doing it.

Worked well this didn’t it?  Let teams have time to set up defensively. Fucking magic. 

[plumbGER 24,518]

2 hours ago, Rowley Birkin said:

try reading it mate even some posters are saying its over the top

Fuck reading that headache of a site.

Ads popping up all over the shop and hard as fuck to have any sort of debate without getting banned.

[BlueVanguard 6,785]

The gallery on the Rangers website Gio just looks really happy and proud to be our manager. Honestly hope we can turn things around and get that drive back.

[bluenose244 2,618]

Come on Roy, we love nothing more than a fancy flick straight to the opposition turning over possession.

[Prso's headband 35,657]

I’ve never been bothered about the passing trying to move the other team around. 
 

My problem is the speed of the passing. Sometimes Kamara, Goldson, Balogun, Barisic will take 3-4 touches just to play a ball 5-10 yards. 
 

My other issue is when we break on teams it takes us 8-10 passes to get into the box by then the other team have numbers back. If we can cut out half of those and be in the box quicker, chances are we score. 
 

Far too often the ball carrier starts running away from goal looking for support and ends up playing it back to midfield or defence. 

[BallochBear 1,613]

12 hours ago, .Williamson. said:

He’s going to love Kent and Sakala 

Every other touch is an attempted step over 

I thought Kent looked like an errant schoolboy when he was told off by Makaay.