RealWorldRich 796 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 I don't blame VAR for giving it, but the more I see it, the more I think this is another example of the rule being totally unforgiving against, what are clearly "accidental" handballs. If you look at, Goldson is shaping to volley the ball clear with his left foot, that's his anticipated body position for the ball's trajectory. But Maeda flicks it on, from about 2 yards away, it deflects the ball from where Goldson expected it to go, and it clips the bone of his elbow, at speed, without any time for him to possibly correct his body position from when the ball changes path. The officials absolutely should take into consideration if a ball is deflected, distance and speed. Goldson was hugely unlucky, it shouldn't have been a penalty. OrangeRab and Bears 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rangers_no1 33,096 Posted April 7 Popular Post Share Posted April 7 Clear penalty IMO Albion, BlueVanguard, JackAlex93 and 10 others 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BuffaloUSAGers 1,295 Posted April 7 Popular Post Share Posted April 7 If a septic player did that and the penalty wasn’t given we’d be raging. demise, Gascoigne8, Redmond7 and 5 others 7 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 31,272 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 There was a defection, so it is harsh, but it is a penalty in today's game. HG5, scottyscott1963 and Albion 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bam74 1,039 Posted April 7 Popular Post Share Posted April 7 By the rules it was a penalty. The handball rules are a shambles though and need changed. Goofy The Scot, Gascoigne's Flute, Helicopter Sundae and 8 others 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,279 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 I'd want a penalty for that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,242 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 You could argue it was harsh but he misjudged the ball and it’s the rules his arm was out, it was a penalty HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWF 8,427 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 It’s a penalty fs. Would be absolutely raging if one of them had done that and got away with it. He’s fucking rubbish. HG5 and Zappa6995 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolongawake 1,209 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Was a penalty all day long. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psb07158 33,758 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 It’s a stonewall penalty Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumloyal 15,119 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 It's a pen, all he had to do was stick the fucking nut on it but he didn't. Clear pen by today's standards. ronniescu and Albion 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealWorldRich 796 Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 Just now, ritchieshearercaldow said: You could argue it was harsh but he misjudged the ball and it’s the rules his arm was out, it was a penalty He didn't misjudge it though, it was flicked on a split second before it deflected onto his elbow. He did nothing wrong as wasn't at fault. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,675 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 The whole discourse of Scottish football right now and referees and VAR and decisions is so fucking tiresome. Every single game now isn't a game of football it's a 90 minute refereeing review before the ball is even kicked and it's ruining the enjoyment of the game. Stop desperately looking for anything to whinge about. IMO they got all the big decisions right today, at worst you can say we got the softer one. Just talk about the football the goal machine, scottyscott1963, J-Maestro and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven33jackie 1,972 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Unfortunately it's a penalty. Goldson was poor again today, you have to wonder if Clement will sit him out against Dundee. HG5 and Albion 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,934 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 3 minutes ago, bam74 said: By the rules it was a penalty. The handball rules are a shambles though and need changed. They actually aren't, they are the easiest and clearest rules we've had Now there's no refs interpretation of accidental or intentional, they dont need to try figure that out, Today it went against us rightly so, but imo the rule is better than it ever has been Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,494 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Definite penalty fuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post graeme_4 35,152 Posted April 7 Popular Post Share Posted April 7 It’s a pen, and that big fanny absolutely shat the bed again. Done with him. The Godfather, Albion, ayrshireranger and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart1994 4,380 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Stone waller, no complaints. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the brown brogue 1,934 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Looked like he was doing everything he could not to have to header the ball and face a repeat of his OG against Benfica. Was never in the right position to clear it even if the ball had continued on it's original trajectory. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,281 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 No issues with that penalty against Goldson today. At least we're honest when decisions rightly go against us, unlike the filth. Rangers_no1 and NeoGeo7 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 3,024 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 It’s desperately unlucky. He does everything to bring his arm into his body so there is no part away from his body. It takes a deflection and then flicks him on the elbow at the only split second where it could be deemed outside his natural silouhette. If it had been the other way we’d be in for a Rodger’s tirade, Sutton shouting about a conspiracy and weeks of media furore. Not sure the rules are clear on it at all either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MarcusDa Beasley 1,048 Posted April 7 Popular Post Share Posted April 7 Sky desperate to make the celtic pen a stonewaller in comparison to ours. Zero comment on the deflection a split second before it hits Goldson’s elbow. Penalty going by the rules but as much as I called him every name under the sun at the time, it’s harsh. This “just head the ball stuff” is pish too. That was clearly his plan before the cross took a nick. There’s no way he can adjust his body in time. Should be said I thought Goldson was howling all game btw. Bears, RealWorldRich, OrangeRab and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue72 1,169 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 100% a clear penalty - he even moved his arm slightly towards trajectory of the ball. The rule is wild but it was definitely in line with the handball rules. Albion 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 12,561 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 40 minutes ago, bluenoz said: There was a defection, so it is harsh, but it is a penalty in today's game. That's the key phrase. "In today's game". It was always getting given but it's the rules that are a shambles. That type of incident should never be a penalty. Albion, Unionblue, bluenoz and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Badger 8,820 Posted April 7 Popular Post Share Posted April 7 It's a clear penalty with the current handball rules. Goldson has made an effort to tuck his arm in, and gets caught out with Maeda's flick. Total accident and tbh, not too much he could do about it as he is already in the air when Maeda flicks it. You need leverage from your arms to jump and he has tried to tuck it in beside him. The handball rule isn't a good rule. Given we spend a lot of time in opponents boxes we have benefitted more than lost out with the current rule, but...... far to many penalties given for clear accidents and I wish FIFA would come up with something - too often a penalty kick seems far to harsh for a totally accidental infringement. graeme_4, HG5, Jamie0202 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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