ForeverAndEver 71,616 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 26 minutes ago, KingKirk said: Btw the manager needs to go but players being unable to pass the ball 5yard to each other is on them not him. He can't go and do it for them it's a mentality thing. They can't handle the expectations of the crowd. He said it himself after match how do you go from the high of Thursday night to those levels today. Ultimately tho he is the manager the blame is at his door. The complete inability to cope with pressure or loss the head in adversity has gone on through Gerrard (before covid) Gvb now beale it is a serious issue. He has full control over signings, it’s on him. Tiger Shaw and JackAlex93 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDB14 2,760 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Honestly people need to settle down a bit. I would have completely understood a thread like this after the scum game but we have just won 3 games in the last week, including a very tricky Euro tie with several of our key players out. We are putting wins on the board and keeping clean sheets. I'd rather that than playing pretty football and dropping points. Jury is out on Beale but if he keeps winning then he will keep his job. Massive game against Livi and Aberdeen - if we can get another two wins with some goals then things will look a bit more rosy. roboscot and gmcf 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWF 8,261 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 2 hours ago, RDB14 said: Honestly people need to settle down a bit. I would have completely understood a thread like this after the scum game but we have just won 3 games in the last week, including a very tricky Euro tie with several of our key players out. We are putting wins on the board and keeping clean sheets. I'd rather that than playing pretty football and dropping points. Jury is out on Beale but if he keeps winning then he will keep his job. Massive game against Livi and Aberdeen - if we can get another two wins with some goals then things will look a bit more rosy. Vanoli, JackAlex93 and Rangers_no1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 34,309 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 3 hours ago, RDB14 said: Honestly people need to settle down a bit. I would have completely understood a thread like this after the scum game but we have just won 3 games in the last week, including a very tricky Euro tie with several of our key players out. We are putting wins on the board and keeping clean sheets. I'd rather that than playing pretty football and dropping points. Jury is out on Beale but if he keeps winning then he will keep his job. Massive game against Livi and Aberdeen - if we can get another two wins with some goals then things will look a bit more rosy. Yeah , he's still a lot to get through but we're grinding out results right now after the c....c and psv games , without 3 or 4 of our best players . On top of which , we traditionally drop points after a tough European game , which thankfully we avoided yesterday . I'm not saying he doesn't deserve the criticism but I've seen managers come back after from worse . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southsider 311 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 11 hours ago, Jelavic191 said: When he did it I at least expect Barisic and Tavernier to push up but it never happened. Baffling. Exactly this. It only made sense if we were actually going 3 at the back. Not 5, which is what happened Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1872 20,795 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 4 hours ago, RDB14 said: Honestly people need to settle down a bit. I would have completely understood a thread like this after the scum game but we have just won 3 games in the last week, including a very tricky Euro tie with several of our key players out. We are putting wins on the board and keeping clean sheets. I'd rather that than playing pretty football and dropping points. Jury is out on Beale but if he keeps winning then he will keep his job. Massive game against Livi and Aberdeen - if we can get another two wins with some goals then things will look a bit more rosy. We only thing that’s keeping him in a job just now are results as performances are horrendous. However we all know how this ends as defeats are just round the corner then he’ll have nothing to keep him in a job. graeme_4 and Negri's lovechild 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Brother 1,115 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 That was the worst game I’ve seen us play in a long time. ronniescu 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackAlex93 11,358 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 5 hours ago, RDB14 said: Honestly people need to settle down a bit. I would have completely understood a thread like this after the scum game but we have just won 3 games in the last week, including a very tricky Euro tie with several of our key players out. We are putting wins on the board and keeping clean sheets. I'd rather that than playing pretty football and dropping points. Jury is out on Beale but if he keeps winning then he will keep his job. Massive game against Livi and Aberdeen - if we can get another two wins with some goals then things will look a bit more rosy. Give yourself a shake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackAlex93 11,358 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 2 hours ago, gmcf said: I'm not saying he doesn't deserve the criticism but I've seen managers come back after from worse . Have you? I can't remember a manager at the club winning in europe midweek then winning in the league the following game and at full time being booed off the park. He has lost the fans and the players it would seem. There is no way back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,875 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 6 hours ago, KingKirk said: He said it himself after match how do you go from the high of Thursday night to those levels today. I don’t know why Beale is even surprised at that because that’s the level of inconsistency we’ve shown for the best part of five years now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,617 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 6 hours ago, KingKirk said: Btw the manager needs to go but players being unable to pass the ball 5yard to each other is on them not him. He can't go and do it for them it's a mentality thing. They can't handle the expectations of the crowd. He said it himself after match how do you go from the high of Thursday night to those levels today. Ultimately tho he is the manager the blame is at his door. The complete inability to cope with pressure or loss the head in adversity has gone on through Gerrard (before covid) Gvb now beale it is a serious issue. I actually think the high of Thurs wasn’t really all that high, it was two teams that really lacked quality. Mostly cancelled each other out by being equally pish, rather than equally good. Got his tactics right that night though, absolutely no idea either what he’s trying to do or why he’s trying to do it for 90% of this season. ronniescu 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffbear 4,096 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 I'm done . Yesterday was the worst yet . Looking like the players have given up on him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,610 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 13 hours ago, LegendofCoop said: Watching his post match interview there, it's not a happy camp. I've read a lot of folk mentioning the players not wanting to play for him, hoping that he gets booted. Although I get that, they better fuck off with that attitude. It's not up to them who we have as a manager. Whether they like it or not, he's the boss, they are the ones that are lucky enough to wear the strips. They need to go out and bust a gut. Ultimately though, Beale needs to change the formation and be more attack minded. He won't last to Christmas if he doesn't! It always easier to get rid of one man than a whole team. Why we didn't bin him in the International break will remain a mystery to me. I wanted him gone at the end of last season he's was clueless both tactically and his subs and embarrassed against them constantly. LegendofCoop 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 34,309 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 2 hours ago, JackAlex93 said: Have you? I can't remember a manager at the club winning in europe midweek then winning in the league the following game and at full time being booed off the park. He has lost the fans and the players it would seem. There is no way back. Yep , can remember fans chanting ' Wallace must go ' after losing the first two league games of the season 77/78 . Went on to win the treble . Jock Walkace was a fighter though , so Beale is going to have to find the same qualities if he is to turn this around . RDB14 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 3,913 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 7 hours ago, RDB14 said: Honestly people need to settle down a bit. I would have completely understood a thread like this after the scum game but we have just won 3 games in the last week, including a very tricky Euro tie with several of our key players out. We are putting wins on the board and keeping clean sheets. I'd rather that than playing pretty football and dropping points. Jury is out on Beale but if he keeps winning then he will keep his job. Massive game against Livi and Aberdeen - if we can get another two wins with some goals then things will look a bit more rosy. Well said Michael. ronniescu and Bigdave30 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benidormbear 15 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 14 hours ago, the old guard said: I agree, he was trying to shut the game out so sterling who has more experience would have been a better choice imo, just one of a few bizarre decisions he made today. Correct, bizarre decisions, Matondo on the right, Wright on the left. Souttar on for Matondo. Again another different eleven from the previous games. Brings on a youngster when we are only winning 1-0. Another awful performance. Beale does not have a clue and needs to go. the old guard 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackAlex93 11,358 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, gmcf said: Yep , can remember fans chanting ' Wallace must go ' after losing the first two league games of the season 77/78 . Went on to win the treble . Jock Walkace was a fighter though , so Beale is going to have to find the same qualities if he is to turn this around . I was born in the 90's so I'll sit this one out 😂 gmcf 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,383 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 13 hours ago, LegendofCoop said: Watching his post match interview there, it's not a happy camp. I've read a lot of folk mentioning the players not wanting to play for him, hoping that he gets booted. Although I get that, they better fuck off with that attitude. It's not up to them who we have as a manager. Whether they like it or not, he's the boss, they are the ones that are lucky enough to wear the strips. They need to go out and bust a gut. Ultimately though, Beale needs to change the formation and be more attack minded. He won't last to Christmas if he doesn't! You’ve got to wonder what’s going on in the dressing room. To a man, all the new players made a point of mentioning the manager making a great personal effort to get them to sign. Perhaps now they’ve signed they realise he’s a bit of a fud: we’ve all been there before, where we quickly discover the boss is a bit of a fuck wit. I’m not saying that’s what happened, but it looks like it. Hadron Collider, SteveEarle, Cooperson and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,875 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, beararse said: You’ve got to wonder what’s going on in the dressing room. To a man, all the new players made a point of mentioning the manager making a great personal effort to get them to sign. Perhaps now they’ve signed they realise he’s a bit of a fud: we’ve all been there before, where we quickly discover the boss is a bit of a fuck wit. I’m not saying that’s what happened, but it looks like it. Beale is like a real life version of one of those old teleshopping adverts you would see before certain channels on Sky started or after they finished their broadcasts for the day where all the products were presented and sold to you in a way that looked class, but you know fine well if you actually ordered one of them it would be cheap, poorly performing garbage. beararse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooperson 825 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, beararse said: You’ve got to wonder what’s going on in the dressing room. To a man, all the new players made a point of mentioning the manager making a great personal effort to get them to sign. Perhaps now they’ve signed they realise he’s a bit of a fud: we’ve all been there before, where we quickly discover the boss is a bit of a fuck wit. I’m not saying that’s what happened, but it looks like it. As someone mentioned earlier, he was shouting at the players on the touchline and nobody was listening to him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddybear1975 2,025 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 8 hours ago, RDB14 said: Honestly people need to settle down a bit. I would have completely understood a thread like this after the scum game but we have just won 3 games in the last week, including a very tricky Euro tie with several of our key players out. We are putting wins on the board and keeping clean sheets. I'd rather that than playing pretty football and dropping points. Jury is out on Beale but if he keeps winning then he will keep his job. Massive game against Livi and Aberdeen - if we can get another two wins with some goals then things will look a bit more rosy. I get the point you're trying to make winning matters most off course it does. However we can all see the way we are playing is showing very few signs of any coherent style or plan in our play. We simply can't continue to play this way and expect to scrape wins. I'll continue to back the team hoping rather than expecting a turnaround in performance but big changes are required and it's looking more and more apparent Beale is failing to communicate what he wants from the players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cascadeshrimp 1,459 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 I keep hearing Sima's post match interview from Thursday 'we need Ibrox to be like this for league games as well as europa nights" and then they serve up that pish Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,941 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 I'm not keen on playing three at the back. It's six defenders on the park if you throw in Lundstram, who drops so deep to pick up the ball. That had to be the worst 1-0 win I have ever watched. 10+ games in, and there is still no cohesion. Worrying times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amokachi 3,050 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 15 hours ago, Blues Brother said: It’s hard to say exactly why, but I don’t think the manager played it correctly… playing it with a flat midfield 3 isn’t going to work… especially when Jack is one of the wide CMs. And Scott Wright before him. The number of 2nd balls that we didn’t get to was incredible… mainly due to midfield sitting too deep… the game ended up being Motherwell winning the 2nd ball and countering quickly… so maybe that forced Tav to sit rather than pushing on…. I think the way the manager played it was way too negative The 2nd ball which we constantly have an issue with was particularly bad yesterday, he’s not reacting to obvious problems on the park in game time. Blues Brother 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,587 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 1 hour ago, gmcf said: Jock Walkace was a fighter though , so Beale is going to have to find the same qualities if he is to turn this around . Unionblue and gmcf 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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